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The FCC plans to vote away net neutrality in December

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Sorry, what's wrong with the FCC? (that is, when it wasn't being run by a guy who hated its existence)

Nothing, by default. But given that TPP will pass, net neutrality will be removed, governments sure as hell don't want to help the citizens, but only line their pockets with filthy lucre, and us to sit back and take it up the tailpipe. Sure as hell seems
that way now, no amount of complaining, petitioning, writing to our Congressmen, will do any amount of good. In fact, we may as well just give up even trying, we can't fight the power, so what's the bloody point in adressing
issues that will never get resolved?

We may as well just wave our white flags now and let our governments rape us for everything we got. That's the vibe I'm getting, prove me wrong. :hateit:


Slower internet
Stricter copyright laws
Less internet freedoms and rights taken away
Bigger government control

What could possibly go wrong??


I see no light at the end of this tunnel.

Screw the TPP and every politician that supports it:angry: There is nothing we can do, at all. Time to pack our bags.
 
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About the Trump "protests", it was just assholes who ruined private properties of other people like them, cars, houses, etc., it was just an excuse to go out and ruin someone's life without doing any actual protesting! Hard working, good people suffered damages from those assholes, rather than all that "protesting" being directed at Trump.

Moving on now, thing is that nowadays no one really cares about protests and all that, it mostly happens online, so if they so much as want to, they can easily cut off your access to the major platforms and silence you, thus there won't be a backlash for the most part. Sure, people can riot or pay more money to be able to get some attention, but it won't be enough.

Anyway, it only affects the US, so it's literally a 1st world problem, but there's something good that could come out of this, less idiots online!:P /s
That is actually a better explanation then I gave.
It appears now that the people are pacifist to the higher ups and love to abuse one another on the same level or below.

Umm... What's wrong with pacifism exactly?
Nothing if you liked to be used and abused, also like to be trampled on and don't care how badly the negative effect a decision has on your life from someone above you.
Actually take a look at what @the_randomizer stated in the first paragraph ^. That pretty much sums it up about pacifism. People at some point may need to unite and stand up, even if means taking arms and starting a war against the government, however there is a risk being blown away by the military.

So are you seriously saying America only has 2 broadband providers?? Because if so why?? I live in Scotland which i am sure you know a quite small country of only 5 million people and we have at least 15 broadband service providers and probably a few more i cant think of at the moment. Why on earth does America only have two.
Their's this thing called monopoly.
 
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Nothing if you liked to be used and abused, also like to be trampled on and don't care how badly the negative effect a decision has on your life from someone above you.
Actually take a look at what @the_randomizer stated in the first paragraph ^. That pretty much sums it up about pacifism. People at some point may need to unite and stand up, even if means taking arms and starting a war against the government, however there is a risk being blown away by the military.
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We can't change anything just by being violent. Look what MLK Jr and Mahatma Gandhi did with pacifism, they changed the world. Heck, look at Switzerland, its doing just fine and has never entered a war. People can unite, but taking up arms and staging some form of a coup d'etat will not get you anywhere. If you take the government by force, how can you call it legitimate. You are restricting the people from their choice.

If you care about it this much anyways, what's stopping you from running for office and changing it yourself?
 

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Switzerland is neutral and not pacifist. They will fight to remain neutral if need be.

Neither is kissing the ass of the government isn't going to do the citizen any good. How can you take the government by force when it was created by the people themselves? Isn't the government by the people and for the people? If yes, then why are they acting like this: by the people and against the people. They need to be reminded they are supposed to be for the people and not against the people.

No one would vote for me, not by a long shot. Why you may ask? Because I'm a nobody to the people.
It would be too stressful to even run and I'm certainly not the best looking, in fact might be the bottom tier against those that would be running. Also how would you get sponsors for the campaign? I have notice mostly governing body usually runs for president, not an average Joe or Jane. Sadly I am the latter "average" or consider myself to be average. Most importantly not into politic.

Besides the president don't generally have the power to change anything.

So all in all like what the_randomizer stated in his post above. We're basically hosed and people just seems to "take it" and like it.

So what would you solution be besides "running for president" be?
 
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So what would you solution be besides "running for president" be?

Wait two frickin years until you can elect a politician that does follow your views. The world isn't going to end just because the government gets to see the pictures of my cat that I post on facebook. Oh wait... They already can do that anyways (or at least russia can :P)
 

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Wait two frickin years until you can elect a politician that does follow your views. The world isn't going to end just because the government gets to see the pictures of my cat that I post on facebook. Oh wait... They already can do that anyways (or at least russia can :P)
Government spying has been an issue for a while, but this argument isn't about that, it is about the government siding with the corperation and putting the citizen on the back burner as of late. But meh, why even bother hoping for a politician that follows my view. They say this and that, but almost always act the very opposite on what they say. So again what the point?
 

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Government spying has been an issue for a while, but this argument isn't about that, it is about the government siding with the corperation and putting the citizen on the back burner as of late. But meh, why even bother hoping for a politician that follows my view. They say this and that, but almost always act the very opposite on what they say. So again what the point?

I don't know what state you live in, but in Washington we have accountability and review measures put in for our federal and state representatives, so maybe I have a lighter view of government than you do.
 

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Sorry, what's wrong with the FCC? (that is, when it wasn't being run by a guy who hated its existence)
The FCC is fine as long as they're regulating elctronic devices and radio interference in the interest of consumer safety like they're supposed to. It's when they start overzealously censoring radio and TV content or enabling shady business practices that people should start getting upset.
 

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The FCC is fine as long as they're regulating elctronic devices and radio interference in the interest of consumer safety like they're supposed to. It's when they start overzealously censoring radio and TV content or enabling shady business practices that people should start getting upset.
When you mentioned the censoring tv part, it reminded me of the PTV episode of family Guy. Episode summary from imdb:

After an incident at the Emmys, the FCC overreacts, so Peter decides to start his own cable network, until the FCC shut him down and start censoring his life.
 

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Neither is kissing the ass of the government isn't going to do the citizen any good. How can you take the government by force when it was created by the people themselves? Isn't the government by the people and for the people? If yes, then why are they acting like this: by the people and against the people. They need to be reminded they are supposed to be for the people and not against the people.
Corporations are people too. People with money. Now of course all people are equal, but some are more equal than others.
I tell ya, it's difficult not to get too political here. All I'll say is, we reap what we sow so we'd better own up to it and maybe reflect a little bit.

The FCC is fine as long as they're regulating elctronic devices and radio interference in the interest of consumer safety like they're supposed to. It's when they start overzealously censoring radio and TV content or enabling shady business practices that people should start getting upset.
They only censor content that's broadcast (as in, over the airwaves which are technically government property or something like that) and even then they only enforce these rules between "prime time" hours. Cable networks are only censored because advertisers typically don't want to be associated with adult content.
The whole reason why NN is such a big stink for ISPs is because they are regulated by the FCC. They'd much rather be under FTC control who have more limited power (they are more reactive in nature than preventative like the FCC) and have historically taken a "whatever" approach to things that some would consider harmful business practices.
 
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