Germany, a Paradise for slackers ?

[Julizi]

this is what happened when u guys have voted Merkel ja??

Merkel's party was the one which vetoed an exceptionless minimum wage (currently 8,84€ but for not every job as a rotten compromise to her partner SPD), ban of time limited employment contracts (which are a huge problem in Germany) and a right of return in your full-time job if you changed into a half-time job to raise kids.

 

[Bimmel]

Work and make the world a better place. Oh, and distance yourself from these people. Peck.

 

[kumikochan]

If it's the same as in other countries, and it is because Germany made the economic rules for the eurozone, the alternative is getting a low paying job every few months until the employers consider you too old. There's a 20% un/underemployment gap on average that is a major drain on EU's productivity that isn't going away anytime soon and will have dramatic consequences. And yet, Deutsche Bank is still broke and we'll have to keep propping it up.

How did Germany made the economic rules for the Eurozone ? According to me Belgium is the capital of Europe and Belgium, Luxemburg started the whole Union thing. The whole Euro currency was even started by Belgium. It's Always funny because non Europeans see Merkel a lot in the news that they Always assume Germany being the leader of Europe while
it's not.
I don't even see Germany in this list. In fact Germany has the same GDP as Belgium while being 10 times as big and almost having 10 times the citizens so that makes it also 10 times as poor.

http://www.trendingtopmost.com/worl...20-2021/world/richest-european-countries-gdp/

 

[sarkwalvein]

How did Germany made the economic rules for the Eurozone ? According to me Belgium is the capital of Europe and Belgium, Luxemburg started the whole Union thing. The whole Euro currency was even started by Belgium.

You're right, actually people and companies abusing subsides is Belgium's fault... /s
(you know, it feels always better to point your finger somewhere else)

 

[Julizi]

I don't even see Germany in this list. In fact Germany has the same GDP as Belgium while being 10 times as big and almost having 10 times the citizens so that makes it also 10 times as poor.

Germany has the fourth highest GDP in the world. Only China, USA and Japan have a higher one. You are talking about the GDP per capita which is indeed almost equal to the Belgian GDP (Germany has ~700$ more).
Think before you write.

Merkel a lot in the news that they Always assume Germany being the leader of Europe while

Berlin is a veto power in the Council of the European Union and the country with the highest GDP in the EU. Technically there is no way to pass EU policies without Germany.

 

[kumikochan]

Germany has the fourth highest GDP in the world. Only China, USA and Japan have a higher one. You are talking about the GDP per capita which is indeed almost equal to the Belgian GDP (Germany has ~700$ more).
Think before you write.


Berlin is a veto power in the Council of the European Union and the country with the highest GDP in the EU.

Someone being salty that other european countries are richer then Germany is ?

 

[sarkwalvein]

Nope it doesn't
please provide me multiple 2017 links of your claims but it clearly isn't

I recommend you limit your quote to the part you're replying to, it is not clear if you mean "It doesn't have the fourth biggest GDP", or "It doesn't have veto power". (though logic would suggest you imply the latter)

 

[kumikochan]

I recommend you limit your quote to the part you're replying to, it is not clear if you mean "It doesn't have the fourth biggest GDP", or "It doesn't have veto power". (though logic would suggest you imply the latter)

another salty german that other european countries hold more power and are richer

 

[sarkwalvein]

another salty german that other european countries hold more power and are richer

I am Argentine.

 

[kumikochan]

I am Argentine.

your flag says differently tho

 

[sarkwalvein]

your flag says differently tho

Because I live in Germany, it is "location", not "nationality".
Anyway, I am only suggesting you how to quote to make it easy to understand what you mean.
No idea how you took that as "salty whatever agression".

 

[Julizi]

Nope it doesn't
please provide me multiple 2017 links of your claims but it clearly isn't

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
How is the IWF supposed to measure the GDP of a year that ain't over yet?

However it projects that Germany stays on rank 4 in 2017 (which is not a suprise since Germany is experiencing an economic boom currently)
http://statisticstimes.com/economy/countries-by-projected-gdp.php

If you talking about the GDP (PPP) India is on rank 3 which makes Japan rank 4 persp. Germany rank 5 but since you aren't able to distinguish between a GDP per capita and a GDP of a whole country, I highly doubt that you know the difference between GDP (nominal) and GDP (PPP).

 

[kumikochan]

Because I live in Germany, it is "location", not "nationality".
Anyway, I am only suggesting you how to quote to make it easy to understand what you mean.
No idea how you took that as "salty whatever agression".

Well, if you live in a country it's only natural for you to defend it in an argument no ? So you being born in another country doesn't have anything to do with it

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)
How is the IWF supposed to measure the GDP of a year that ain't over yet?

However it projects that Germany stays on rank 4 in 2017 (which is not a suprise since Germany is experiencing an economic boom currently)
http://statisticstimes.com/economy/countries-by-projected-gdp.php

If you talking about the GDP (PPP) India is on rank 3 which makes Japan rank 4 persp. Germany rank 5 but since you aren't able to distinguish between a GDP per capita and a GDP of a whole country, I highly doubt that you know the difference between GDP (nominal) and GDP (PPP).

But it still makes your country more poor then 10 other European countries, no ? And that doesn't take away the capital of Europe is Brussels no ? I just hate it that people outside of Europe always see Germany as the leader of Europe when it clearly isn't at all just because Merkel is in the news a lot. Like that one person claiming that Germany made the European economic rules wich is bullshit and that's just because Merkel is in the news a lot that people Always think stuff like that for some reason.

 

[sarkwalvein]

Well, if you live in a country it's only natural for you to defend it in an argument no ? So you being born in another country doesn't have anything to do with it

Whatever, but see what happens when you don't quote clearly.
The actual person that could troll about it (answering the former part, not the latter), actually did it, making the conversation further into the off topic land. That could have been avoided.

PS: One could also try to be unbiased, you know, to actually try to have a conversation, learn new points of view and understand themselves better. Wherever you live or wherever you were born doesn't automatically make you a stubborn blind person that would go into a conversation chanting like a hoolingan in a football match against the rival team.

 

[Coto]

Work and make the world a better place. Oh, and distance yourself from these people. Peck.

I was expecting someone to post this.

I agree 100%.

 

[Julizi]

But it still makes your country more poor then 10 other European countries, no ? And that doesn't take away the capital of Europe is Brussels no ?

Are you seriously comparing countries like Switzerland, Luxemburg or Monaco with a country like Germany or Belgium? Those countries make a bunch of money with capital transactions and should not be compared to countries with a producing industry. Also I've never said that Germany is the richest country in Europe, it may have the highest GDP but that does not mean wealth for everyone since Germany has a huge problem with it's low-pay sector. (In German we use the picture of the "Scissor between poor and wealth" that opens more and more)

And Brüssel is where the office of some of the major EU institutions is but I do not see where there should be an advantage for Belgium.

 

[kumikochan]

Are you seriously comparing countries like Switzerland, Luxemburg or Monaco with a country like Germany or Belgium? Those countries make a bunch of money with capital transactions and should not be compared to countries with a producing industry. Also I've never said that Germany is the richest country in Europe, it may have the highest GDP but that does not mean wealth for everyone since Germany has a huge problem with it's low-pay sector. (In German we use the picture of the "Scissor between poor and wealth" that opens more and more)

And Brüssel is where the office of some of the major EU institutions is but I do not see where there should be an advantage for Belgium.

Like i said, i'm just saying Germany isn't the leader of the EU like a lot of non europeans always think just because Merkel is a lot in the news. The president of the European parlement is Antonio Tajani, while the president of the European council is Donal Tusk from Poland and the president of the European commission is Jean claude Juncker from Belgium.
I just don't like it that people Always claim Germany has everything to do with the Union while it isn't. Not to take anything away from your country but people in general have a wrong view about Europe outside of Europe. Ofcourse not everybody thinks that but a lot of reporters outside of Europe aalways make it seem like that by mostly showing Merkel and nobody else.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

I don't necessarily see a problem with that policy

 

[sarkwalvein]

I don't necessarily see a problem with that policy

The policy is needed IMHO.
But there should be some measures to avoid it being abused.
It should help you get along in bad times, and it does so.
It could be abused to avoid working, and it also is.
IMHO, it should help you to stand up again, move forward, and become self-reliant.
It is a double-edged sword, but it still is needed.

 

[FAST6191]

Like i said, i'm just saying Germany isn't the leader of the EU like a lot of non europeans always think just because Merkel is a lot in the news. The president of the European parlement is Antonio Tajani, while the president of the European council is Donal Tusk from Poland and the president of the European commission is Jean claude Juncker from Belgium.
I just don't like it that people Always claim Germany has everything to do with the Union while it isn't. Not to take anything away from your country but people in general have a wrong view about Europe outside of Europe. Ofcourse not everybody thinks that but a lot of reporters outside of Europe aalways make it seem like that by mostly showing Merkel and nobody else.

That is just being pedantic. You know full well if Germany says something that others will listen, and other places will look to Germany's position, where if somewhere like Estonia said something then not so much.

I agree the EU does not seem quite as... blocky as the likes of America or some of the smaller subdivisions within European countries, Belgium itself being a rather spectacular example of that, but to assume Germany doesn't curry more than its 29 votes... yeah.