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Apple revoking all firmwares for some older devices

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It appears that Apple has stopped signing every firmware version for a lot of older devices that used A5 chips. All devices whose latest firmware update was either iOS 9.3.5 or iOS 5.1.1 has lost its ability to update or restore. That means if an issue occurs, such as a brick, iTunes will be unable to restore the iDevice. Oddly enough, devices who's latest firmware was iOS 6.1.6 are not affected by this. This comes recently after the controversy over Apple slowing down the performance of its older devices. Hopefully this will be fixed soon.

EDIT: It appears 9.3.5 for all versions of the first iPad mini and the iPod Touch 5 is being signed again.

EDIT 2: It appears apple has noticed and is resigning more devices. The iPad 2, iPad 3, and iPhone 4 iOS 9.3.5 was resigned and iPod Touch 3 and iPad 1 iOS 5.1.1 was also resigned.

:arrow: Source: r/Jailbreak thread
 
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Yeah... that whole "signing sh#t" is what drove me off from apple..

At one point one was required to use the da#n firmware umbrella just to restore to the firmware one had. And that wasn't even guranteed.

New firmware ? Say good-bye to all your previous tweaks.

Honestly. Apple could render all apple devices incapable with a simple click of a button.
(Not that it is impossible with other vendors either, but here it is just unnverving)
 
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Ahhh dammit, it seems that the firmwares have already been signed once again, it was a bug on their server.
But once they restored the signing for their firmwares, they accidentally signed every single firmware, meaning you could jailbreak any device and I missed that band wagon.
 
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I still don't understand the throttling "scandal". I'm happy that Apple actually cares and prevents older phones from crashing or emptying their batteries faster.
 

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I still don't understand the throttling "scandal". I'm happy that Apple actually cares and prevents older phones from crashing or emptying their batteries faster.
That's not a completely trustworthy explanation though. I've had phones for years where the battery has still been good after being charged a bunch of times. So Apple is using shitty batteries or they they're not paying attention to the actual battery and just how many times it's been charged regardless of if the battery quality is degrading.

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Can someone please tell me things that IOS can do that Android Can't?
The cameras are supposed to be pretty good, but if you really serious about photography and videography you won't be using your iPhone.
 
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That's not a completely trustworthy explanation though. I've had phones for years where the battery has still been good after being charged a bunch of times. So Apple is using shitty batteries or they they're not paying attention to the actual battery and just how many times it's been charged regardless of if the battery quality is degrading.
Well, it's also more about smoothing spikes in power draw rather than real throttling. Also, in 2016, the battery of my Galaxy Note II was capable of lasting... 1h15.
 

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So, on top of throttling down performance on its phones, Apple's getting rid of firmware updates/restores.

Essentially, the message they're trying to send to consumers is "buy our new shit."

EDIT: Ah, they're signing devices again? That's good, I suppose, but the sentiment remains. Apple seems to be doing a lot of stuff lately that's absolutely killing consumer confidence. I don't entirely trust them, in all honesty.
Because of this throttling thing, Apple started offering discounts on replacing Iphone batteries for $29 bucks, to try to get on peoples good side.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...iphone-battery-for-29/?utm_term=.d313954b0689

Replacing the battery will make your phone's battery last longer and improve performance, kicking processor performance to 100%. Iphones are only throttled with an aging battery. Bench mark analysis shows performance as low as 40%. Then they ran tests after replacing the battery and performance kicked back up to 100% and over.

https://ifixit.org/blog/9472/ios-update-slows-iphone/
 
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It’s bizarre. I don’t like Apple myself but they’re just one of many massive companies who sell products based on image. Samsung, LG, Sharp, Sony etc. aren’t massive? Do these people also avoid Coca-Cola, Starbucks, McDonalds etc.?

Only the smart people, I think...

Myself, I just don't like crap products.

But that's just my-so-personal-opinion. So... no offence meant.
 

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Yeah... that whole "signing sh#t" is what drove me off from apple..

At one point one was required to use the da#n firmware umbrella just to restore to the firmware one had. And that wasn't even guranteed.

New firmware ? Say good-bye to all your previous tweaks.

Honestly. Apple could render all apple devices incapable with a simple click of a button.
(Not that it is impossible with other vendors either, but here it is just unnverving)
Not exactly true, with Android we can flash what we want.
 

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with Android we can flash what we want.

Gasp! Sacrilege! You mean android users can do whatever they want? Unsupervised and permitted by nanny? Noone to hold your hands and watching over you in the safe spaces that you can't leave? How can that be allowed!? Don't you know there are bad monsters that want to throttle you out there?
 

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They're getting ready to activate the hidden brick code.
A few years back I'd say you were paranoid. Today I agree with you. I had an iPhone 6 that was perfectly good. I used it a lot for photo editing actually. Then put of the blue the 4G dies and the battery sucks. Then I start reading about the throttling.

This is a shame as I really like the apple mobile OS, much more than droid. For a guy like me who isn't really tech savvy, I like the simplicity. But I had to ditch the iPhone and get a $40 smartphone.

I've been with Apple since the 3GS and would have stuck with them, but this is criminally disingenuous. When I get some more dough, I'm going to get a high end droid like a pixel. I'm done. Fuck Apple.
 
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