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He is not even praising Hitler, he's stating the fact that his speech qualities allowed him to get to the head of Weimar Republic and then fuck the entire Europe and cause the deaths of 80 million people. While Trump... Well, Trump's level in speeches has already be quantified; his vocabulary is that of a 4th-grader.
 
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Rofl, now you're really grasping at straws. Somebody could smash Obama over the head with a rock several times and he could still go out and give a speech better than the best one we've gotten out of ol' Donny Alzheimer's. Trump couldn't even manage to win a single debate against Hillary Clinton, and she's one of the worst campaigners I've ever seen in politics.
I'm referring more to Obama's frequent memes and jokes either in videos, or at some conferences, specifically the Lion King fox news thing. Had Trump done shit like that, dorks like you would go nuts about it.

Hell you probably lost your shit at Ajit Pai's video with fidget spinners and nerf guns.
 
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Not only can you not vote due to your age but you literally can't even vote in US politics. Pretty safe to say your opinion on anything in US politics should be taken with an entire shaker of salt. It's a little hard to fully understand the political climate, and the parties themselves as well as their actual beliefs, when the majority (if not the entirety) of your political information comes from social media clowns or extremists.
Except it's not about politics. It's just about a dumb guy doing dumb things while he has a lot of power. And of course, him leaving the Paris agreements won't have an effect on my future life? :unsure:
 
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Except it's not about politics. It's just about a dumb guy doing dumb things while he has a lot of power. And of course, him leaving the Paris agreements won't have an effect on my future life? :unsure:
That's correct, because the Paris agreements didn't even do anything. The media will tell you that, but in reality no one in the Paris agreements were really doing much of anything to help the environment to begin with. Your age is showing again.
 

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I'm referring more to Obama's frequent memes and jokes either in videos, or at some conferences, specifically the Lion King fox news thing. Had Trump done shit like that, dorks like you would go nuts about it.
If Trump was intelligent enough to sprinkle pop culture references and memes in, that would benefit him in a lot of other areas as well. I would not be mad. In reality, however, Trump doesn't even know how to use the internet, Twitter is the only app on his phone.

Hell you probably lost your shit at Ajit Pai's video with fidget spinners and nerf guns.
Ajit Pai has a very punchable face, but that's regardless of anything he says or does.

That's correct, because the Paris agreements didn't even do anything. The media will tell you that, but in reality no one in the Paris agreements were really doing much of anything to help the environment to begin with. Your age is showing again.
Most of the US is still on track to meet the Paris agreement standards state-by-state, so I guess we'll find out if it makes any difference in the long run.
 
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That's correct, because the Paris agreements didn't even do anything. The media will tell you that, but in reality no one in the Paris agreements were really doing much of anything to help the environment to begin with. Your age is showing again.
I know that, but him saying "Sorry, Climate change is bullshit and we are not going to help" isn't exactly going to lead to further actions. I know the 2015 agreements are just talk, but that talk was kinda needed if we wanna go anywhere with that. Also, what's that obsession with my age?
 
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That's correct, because the Paris agreements didn't even do anything. The media will tell you that, but in reality no one in the Paris agreements were really doing much of anything to help the environment to begin with. Your age is showing again.
Also sources for this before you go off on some nonsense the media told you
http://reason.com/archives/2017/06/06/paris-climate-agreement-wasnt-going-to-s
https://news.nationalgeographic.com...-change-paris-agreement-california-emissions/
http://theweek.com/articles/702685/stop-freaking-about-paris-agreement

Even incredibly liberal sites that praise the agreement are critical of it.
https://www.theguardian.com/global-...te-deal-wont-work-our-future-depends-degrowth

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/articl...te-hype-paris-climate-accord-doesnt-really-do
Here's an actual climatologist discussing why it's basically pointless.

So yeah, keep worrying about what the media tells you, don't ever think for yourself.
 

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I know that, but him saying "Sorry, Climate change is bullshit and we are not going to help" isn't exactly going to lead to further actions. I know the 2015 agreements are just talk, but that talk was kinda needed if we wanna go anywhere with that. Also, what's that obsession with my age?
He thinks insulting your age will somehow improve his own arguments, which of course it doesn't. I'm 31, probably older than Maverick.
 

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I’ll take Mao Zedong for communism for 500$ Alex....

IJS, to compare or suggest President Trump(respect the ideal of the office not the man in it) is committing or has the potential to commit genocide is extremism. This is exactly why the American system of checks and balances were implemented. While I can’t stand the guy, and I think he’s a grade A tool, he hasn’t done anything even comparable to Mao, Stalin, or Hitler.
 
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I know that, but him saying "Sorry, Climate change is bullshit and we are not going to help" isn't exactly going to lead to further actions. I know the 2015 agreements are just talk, but that talk was kinda needed if we wanna go anywhere with that. Also, what's that obsession with my age?
Also, you evidently don't understand the US political climate (or really anything about politics at all) if the president says something and backs out of it and that makes you think every company in the US and every movement for climate change is going to magically stop or be prevented from existing.

There's no "obsession" with your age. I don't care how old you are. I just think it's funny that some kid is pretending he knows what he's talking about because he's afraid of what people have told him to be afraid of and hasn't questioned it.
 

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I’ll take Mao Zedong for communism for 500$ Alex....

IJS, to compare or suggest President Trump(respect the ideal of the office not the man in it) is committing or has the potential to commit genocide is extremism. This is exactly why the American system of checks and balances were implemented. While I can’t stand the guy, and I think he’s a grade A tool, he hasn’t done anything even comparable to Mao, Stalin, or Hitler.
I'm sorry, but I've got more examples. At least Hitler cared about the German people, where Trump let over a thousand American citizens die from a nearly non-existent relief effort in Puerto Rico. The Trump administration continues to claim the number of deaths is closer to twenty. Not only is Trump responsible for every one of those deaths, the lie about the actual number of casualties should be enough to impeach on its own. Well, if Republicans had any integrity or conscience left it would be enough.
 
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I'm sorry, but I've got more examples. At least Hitler cared about the German people, where Trump let over a thousand American citizens die from a nearly non-existent relief effort in Puerto Rico. The Trump administration continues to claim the number of deaths is closer to twenty. Not only is Trump responsible for every one of those deaths, the lie about the actual number of casualties should be enough to impeach on its own.
Hey what's your stance on Obama's drone strikes just curious
 

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I'm sorry, but I've got more examples. At least Hitler cared about the German people, where Trump let over a thousand American citizens die from a nearly non-existent relief effort in Puerto Rico. The Trump administration continues to claim the number of deaths is closer to twenty. Not only is Trump responsible for every one of those deaths, the lie about the actual number of casualties should be enough to impeach on its own.
He reeeeaaally cared about those Jewish citizens of Germany....

It’s scary that you’d say that dude. This is a perfect example of how the DNC lost independents. Even after a surefire election win was lost, you’re still trying to move people left instead of moving closer to the middle.

The only comparison I could honestly make is that both Hitlers and President Trumps campaigns were full of anger towards a specific people, particularly Muslims in Trumps case. They both galvanized a population into believing they were the largest threat to the populations survival.
 
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Hey what's your stance on Obama's drone strikes just curious
This is a complicated subject. Given the option between potentially losing American lives on the ground vs using drones, I pick drones. Unfortunately the technology isn't as accurate as it should be yet, and the potential for collateral damage is there in every operation, so unintended casualties will happen. Obama will continue to take a lot of heat for the drone program, but every president will be using it from here on out anyway.

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He reeeeaaally cared about those Jewish citizens of Germany....

It’s scary that you’d say that dude. This is a perfect example of how the DNC lost independents. Even after a surefire election win was lost, you’re still trying to move people left instead of moving closer to the middle.
Again we were discussing Hitler's actions prior to the war, and the only reason people keep bringing up the Holocaust is because it's the only point on which Hitler is obviously much worse than Trump. Comparing them on a personal level you get much different results.

IMO the "center" moved too far to the right quite a while ago. Around the same time corporations became people and money became the only form of speech that matters. I'm just trying to move the center back to the center.
 
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This is a complicated subject. Given the option between potentially losing American lives on the ground vs using drones, I pick drones. Unfortunately the technology isn't as accurate as it should be yet, and the potential for collateral damage is there in every operation, so unintended casualties will happen. Obama will continue to take a lot of heat for the drone program, but every president will be using it from here on out anyway.
Right, but Trump is to blame for the inevitable -- people dying in relief efforts.
Not only that but he should be impeached for it.

And to think you were complaining about hypocrisy.

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IMO the "center" moved too far to the right quite a while ago.

bruh
look at this dood

When you are so far on any side of the political spectrum that you think the center isn't center because it doesn't agree with you, you have a legitimate problem.
 

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Right, but Trump is to blame for the inevitable -- people dying in relief efforts.
Not only that but he should be impeached for it.

And to think you were complaining about hypocrisy.
These are two completely different scenarios you're trying to equate. Puerto Rico wasn't a theater of war. The Trump administration was simply too disorganized and the relief effort came too late. If they were willing to own up to their mistakes and publish the real number of casualties, things would be different. Obviously that's not this administration's SOP, though, when they're caught in a lie they just make up a new lie or double down.


When you are so far on any side of the political spectrum that you think the center isn't center because it doesn't agree with you, you have a legitimate problem.
How about quoting the rest of what I said there and forming a decent argument against it, then? Shouldn't be too hard. Just remember: your political opinion only matters to the extent of the number in your bank account.
 
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These are two completely different scenarios you're trying to equate. Puerto Rico wasn't a theater of war. The Trump administration was simply too disorganized and the relief effort came too late. If they were willing to own up to their mistakes and publish the real number of casualties, things would be different. Obviously that's not this administration's SOP, though, when they're caught in a lie they just make up a new lie or double down.
Man I can't possibly imagine why a country that's at least a trillion of dollars in debt would possibly be disorganized, especially not in the same time frame as Harvey, Irma, Jose, Maria. Now that's silly. The fact you're implying it's somehow not inevitable (or even preventable) that someone will die after natural disasters is really just sad.
 

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This is a complicated subject. Given the option between potentially losing American lives on the ground vs using drones, I pick drones. Unfortunately the technology isn't as accurate as it should be yet, and the potential for collateral damage is there in every operation, so unintended casualties will happen. Obama will continue to take a lot of heat for the drone program, but every president will be using it from here on out anyway.

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Again we were discussing Hitler's actions prior to the war, and the only reason people keep bringing up the Holocaust is because it's the only point on which Hitler is obviously much worse than Trump. Comparing them on a personal level you get much different results.

IMO the "center" moved too far to the right quite a while ago. Around the same time corporations became people and money became the only form of speech that matters. I'm just trying to move the center back to the center.
I see what you’re saying, and admittedly it’s mostly correct imo. But, I believe around the 60’s and 70’s the population began embracing a more liberal mindset. I believe it stuck around and that’s a talking point in how President Obama was elected. But progress is typically like this. 5 steps forward, 3 steps back. Rinse and repeat.
 

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Man I can't possibly imagine why a country that's at least a trillion of dollars in debt would possibly be disorganized, especially not in the same time frame as Harvey, Irma, Jose, Maria. Now that's silly. The fact you're implying it's somehow not inevitable (or even preventable) that someone will die after natural disasters is really just sad.
The number of casualties would've been half, if not less, with an appropriate relief effort. Here we go again with you getting real defensive over the worst actions someone else has taken. You don't have to worry, I'm not going to blame you for Trump's failures. Again, possibly the bigger issue is that the administration is lying about the total casualties.
 
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