Hacking Why is every major dev of the Switch scene pissed about Xecuter's work?

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This thread is perfect.

The salt and butthurt from the SwitchHax circlejerk and anti-piracy moral warriors from the absolute BTFO-ing of their bullshit attention-seeking "We got the trust kernal cyberbrain zone" drip-feed nonsense by Team X,
The bickering between scene loyalists and pirates,
and the third party tearing their hair out trying to calm everyone down.

Just... perfect.
 
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My logic was that the 3DS had softmods thanks to having access to flash carts, so I was being hopeful. Instead of being pessimistic, be optimistic for a change.
Gateway was basically a DRM cart, TX deals in modchips. I don't see the purpose really of having a hardware exploit only to use it as DRM for software
 

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Gateway was basically a DRM cart, TX deals in modchips. I don't see the purpose really of having a hardware exploit only to use it as DRM for software
That's not what I meant. I'm saying that we can learn more about the hardware to get to the point where we can hack it via softmods.
 
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My logic was that the 3DS had softmods thanks to having access to flash carts, so I was being hopeful. Instead of being pessimistic, be optimistic for a change.

How do we know the Switch will even achieve the same level of hacking and exploits as the 3DS?
 
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How do we know the Switch will even achieve the same level of hacking and exploits as the 3DS?
I was using it as an example of how we got softmods on 3DS cause of flashcarts. I'm comparing it to whatever Xecuter is coming out with. Just being hopeful. If I'm wrong, then oh well.
 

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I was using it as an example of how we got softmods on 3DS cause of flashcarts. I'm comparing it to whatever Xecuter is coming out with. Just being hopeful. If I'm wrong, then oh well.

I want there to be softmods via flashcarts as much as the next guy, but with so much news and so little to show for it, *sigh*...
 

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I want there to be softmods via flashcarts as much as the next guy, but with so much news and so little to show for it, *sigh*...
For someone who whines about wanting homebrew on 4.x on every thread you sure are acting like it'll never happen.
 

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Hey, we're getting homebrew way faster than 3DS and Wii U combined. It's insane!

Perhaps on earlier firmware, unfortunately I'm on 4.0.2, and despite disconnecting from WiFi, it's hard to say when/if 4.0.2 is exploitable. Kinda kills my enthusiasm to be honest :unsure:

For someone who whines about wanting homebrew on 4.x on every thread you sure are acting like it'll never happen.

Oh, so you suggest I show forth an ounce of faith/hope that it will happen? Do tell.

Edit: Correction, I'm on 4.1.0, disconnected immediately after updating last month, yeah. Wow, I stand corrected.
 
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I want there to be softmods via flashcarts as much as the next guy, but with so much news and so little to show for it, *sigh*...
For someone who whines about wanting homebrew on 4.x on every thread you sure are acting like it'll never happen.
It was just announced today that there is a private userland exploit for 4.1.0 and below. But it won't be out until it's patched. So just hang in there @the_randomizer. ;)
 

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It was just announced today that there is a private userland exploit for 4.1.0 and below. But it won't be out until it's patched. So just hang in there @the_randomizer. ;)

But I'm on 4.0.2...wait huh?! Okay, I stand corrected, I am on 4.1.0 after all (as we have XBC2)...wait a second...! I'll be damned..:blink:
 
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It's all talked about in this thread and in the blog post linked there. (And in the Reswitched's Discord of course :P)
https://gbatemp.net/threads/up-to-4-x-exploitable-but-lower-firmware-is-better.494130/

Also apparently SciresM has kernel up to 3.0.2. But has made it very clear that lower is absolutely better.

Can't do kernel access on my end, I'm afraid. I'm on 4.1.0, and I care more about homebrew (like emulators), than I am about EmuNAND, ROM loading, etc.
 
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Can't do kernel access on my end, I'm afraid. I'm on 4.1.0, and I care more about homebrew (like emulators), than I am about EmuNAND, ROM loading, etc.
Sounds like things are looking up for you then if you don't care for kernelhax, just hang in there and wait for the bug to be patched friend. :)
 
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Sounds like things are looking up for you then if you don't care for kernelhax, just hang in there and wait for the bug to be patched friend. :)

Nintendo will invariably patch as many exploits as they can, but the fact most firmware is exploitable at least, enough for homebrew, finally gives me something to be positive about :P
 
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That's not what I meant. I'm saying that we can learn more about the hardware to get to the point where we can hack it via softmods.

hardware will always have an upper hand on never devices since the security they employ make it hard to softmod, gone are the days of simple buffer overflow savegame exploits.

look at the Xbox 360, It will always be tethered to extra hardware. I like that Xecuter is working on a hardware solution since that helps to eliminate a lot of hassles that softmods have since softmods will always be dependent on the software being exploited.
 

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hardware will always have an upper hand on never devices since the security they employ make it hard to softmod, gone are the days of simple buffer overflow savegame exploits.

look at the Xbox 360, It will always be tethered to extra hardware. I like that Xecuter is working on a hardware solution since that helps to eliminate a lot of hassles that softmods have since softmods will always be dependent on the software being exploited.

I hardly seeing hardmods as being more convenient, soldering is a PITA for newbies.
 

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