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Before I'm stating what I think, I'd first like to adress the elephant in the room of polling.
Last (unofficial, touted because french law forbids polls when voting is going on) exit polls 2 hours before the officials came out was:
Macron at about 25%
Le Pen Melonchon and Fillon at 20%

At the time of writing, the official exits are:
Le Pen 25% - Macron 21%

Again, polls were incorrect slightly beyond margin or error and scewed in the opposite direction.

On to my opinions on Le Pen - Macron. (As Belgian in my late twenties)
France has problems that current Hollande didn't fix-made worse. Both socialist and republican parties' candidates didn't make the second round. Youth unemployment at about 25% and total at 10% becoming unmanagable, terror happening more and more often. These two problems have the most public interest.

I personally think France doesn't need to leave the EU, as France is so influencial it can change the EU for the better, directly. So I disagree with Le Pen wanting to leave, at least she said she's hold a referendum instead of choosing to leave by herself. Macron on the other hand, while I think being neutral is a hard position to be in politically and I applaud him for that, I think he's too maleable as a neutral, as he seems to give in too much when talking about foreign policy.

Internal policy: I doubt Le Pen's economic know-how, even though she livened up the village she came from (forgot the name, scuse me). Macron, as a banker, I fear for his secret friends.

In the end I fear with Macron: not enough will happen and France will continue to weaken. With Le Pen, I fear too much will happen. But at the end I will at least understand if and why either 'outsider' becomes president. I'm certainly glad the communist didn't make it.

Edit: I'd like to add that, just like the USA, people actually have a real choice. It's not a situation where both runners are eachothers cousins twice removed.
 
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I don't know how many will be able to see this but most of what I know about this was from watching the following last week



Various people have uploaded that in its entirety if it is blocked where you are at (do a search for last week tonight french election).

I will say I thoroughly approve of egging and flouring politicians though.

Back on topic I don't know what real power the office has, as far as being hamstrung by courts and other bodies, though I certainly don't imagine it to be a figurehead type situation.

its luckily not blocked
 

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Before I'm stating what I think, I'd first like to adress the elephant in the room of polling.
Last (unofficial, touted because french law forbids polls when voting is going on) exit polls 2 hours before the officials came out was:
Macron at about 25%
Le Pen Melonchon and Fillon at 20%

At the time of writing, the official exits are:
Le Pen 25% - Macron 21%

Again, polls were incorrect slightly beyond margin or error and scewed in the opposite direction.

On to my opinions on Le Pen - Macron. (As Belgian in my late twenties)
France has problems that current Hollande didn't fix-made worse. Both socialist and republican parties' candidates didn't make the second round. Youth unemployment at about 25% and total at 10% becoming unmanagable, terror happening more and more often. These two problems have the most public interest.

I personally think France doesn't need to leave the EU, as France is so influencial it can change the EU for the better, directly. So I disagree with Le Pen wanting to leave, at least she said she's hold a referendum instead of choosing to leave by herself. Macron on the other hand, while I think being neutral is a hard position to be in politically and I applaud him for that, I think he's too maleable as a neutral, as he seems to give in too much when talking about foreign policy.

Internal policy: I doubt Le Pen's economic know-how, even though she livened up the village she came from (forgot the name, scuse me). Macron, as a banker, I fear for his secret friends.

In the end I fear with Macron: not enough will happen and France will continue to weaken. With Le Pen, I fear too much will happen. But at the end I will at least understand if and why either 'outsider' becomes president. I'm certainly glad the communist didn't make it.
yes communism is SHIT and its the same situation like the USA.
both sites are bad

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I didn't vote
Don't give a fuck actually, i'm outa there soon
good boy where should we go ? :^)
 
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Come to my place you are welcome :creep:
free candy?
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free candy?
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Lolipops ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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I don't know how many will be able to see this but most of what I know about this was from watching the following last week



Various people have uploaded that in its entirety if it is blocked where you are at (do a search for last week tonight french election).

I will say I thoroughly approve of egging and flouring politicians though.

Back on topic I don't know what real power the office has, as far as being hamstrung by courts and other bodies, though I certainly don't imagine it to be a figurehead type situation.

When you are french and watching an english documentary about france
 
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Actually the fun thing is that i have a pretty good intuition
which told me 2 month before that trump would win even if my logic told me the oposite
now my logic says it will not be le pen but my intuiton have been saying she will be elected for about two month so meh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Actually the fun thing is that i have a pretty good intuition
which told me 2 month before that trump would win even if my logic told me the oposite
now my logic says it will not be le pen but my intuiton have been saying she will be elected for about two month so meh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
nvm I just understood what you mean :P
sorry
 
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for about 2 months?
Yup they are manipulating us with the terorist attack to make people hate muslims
then puting someone which says that he want even more muslim in france
then they put the one they want to be elected saying that she want to eject eveyone which is the oposite of macron

On top of that macron used a law hole to impose a new law that stole our minimum wage
so now we can work 50 H per week and be paid less
Of course people are voting Le pen and i can bet on that even if she is worse than trump
macron is also terrible
that's why whatever the outcome i'm leaving

I also have a black board where i wrote all the election results (for the first and second run) about a month ago in front of my familly (i made a bet, also did with trump and they said it was not possible xD) and for the moment i was right with about a 1% error margin for the 5 first candidate
but it isn't hard, the results are far from being random

anyway lepen will win with about 55 to 65 %
the seconf round and i can bet on that xP
 
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When you are french and watching an english documentary about france

Actually it is worse and it is American, just an English host. That said watching how outsiders perceive things to be going on is great fun. Seldom amazingly accurate, not that the internal stuff is either, but occasionally leads to things you might not expect.
Some suggest people read up on "both" sides of an issue but I tend to find the world is not so binary and the outsider stuff forms part of that.
 

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Actually it is worse and it is American, just an English host. That said watching how outsiders perceive things to be going on is great fun. Seldom amazingly accurate, not that the internal stuff is either, but occasionally leads to things you might not expect.
Some suggest people read up on "both" sides of an issue but I tend to find the world is not so binary and the outsider stuff forms part of that.
Yeah but basicaly we are screwed
even more than america with trump
I'm mooving I think, just have to figure out where but It might be swiss because
1) my step father (i live with him) have double nationality and work there
2 it is close
3 it is going well there
 
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Oh and did I miss,
She wants to leave Nato and introduce the franc again?
Why, the euro is stronger than the dollar :P also why leave nato france would be fucked if ww3 breaks out becasue Kim randomly decides to take his drugs again.
and I support multi culture there is nothing wrong with the coran.
Its people abusing the religion, They aren't religious or muslims at all.
iirc the coran even says that hurting people isnt good and the whole how you threat people so you will be threated.
 
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So, it's basically lady Trump vs Bernie if he was amped up to 20?

If France leaves the EU, along with the UK, then the EU is dead.
the EU is a bad thing anyway
France was much wealthier when we had the franc
so yeah

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So, it's basically lady Trump vs Bernie if he was amped up to 20?

If France leaves the EU, along with the UK, then the EU is dead.
And no bernie is okay
macron is kinda hilary in different, less agressive towards other country but willing to steal his own
 

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the EU is a bad thing anyway
France was much wealthier when we had the franc
so yeah

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And no bernie is okay
macron is kinda hilary in different
well that doesnt mean they will be wealthier then like last time :/ and swiss is fine :P

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actually it seems like ISIS is trying to make this happen?
oh boy ill be theorizing soon
 
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well that doesnt mean they will be wealthier then like last time :/ and swiss is fine :P

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actually it seems like ISIS is trying to make this happen?
oh boy ill be theorizing soon
You want a fun fact, at each eleciton (regional too) there was a terorist attack
 
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