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just checked that terrorist on wikipedia, according to wiki the only responsible was only sentenced 21 years of prison wtf??

Not just 21 years, read it again.
Also, 21 years is the max sentence in Norway.
 
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>woke up early, still dark out
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>drinks some mtndew
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50 ppl dead and 400 ppl injured
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eh. Who needs strict weapon laws amirite

Such as? We've already got a ton of weapons laws in the USA. Dollars to donuts this guy broke many of them before the shooting started. Making something illegal doesn't stop it, or there'd be no murders, burglaries, drugs, rape, etc. What people are capable of doing, someone will do. Timothy McVeigh blew up a federal building and killed 168 people with cowshit.
 
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Such as? We've already got a ton of weapons laws in the USA. Dollars to donuts this guy broke many of them before the shooting started. Making something illegal doesn't stop it, or there'd be no murders, burglaries, drugs, rape, etc. What people are capable of doing, someone will do. Timothy McVeigh blew up a federal building and killed 168 people with cowshit.
Buying weapons in Nevada is extremely simple. You don't need a permit.
If acquiring a gun is so simple... It's no wonder this happens.
 

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Buying weapons in Nevada is extremely simple. You don't need a permit.
If acquiring a gun is so simple... It's no wonder this happens.

Making it harder to obtain a firearm won't stop criminals from illegally circumventing gun laws.
 

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Because there was no motive behind the attack, he wasnt part of a terror group, not part a political group
just nothing

Fascinating. where did u get the idea the mass murdering has no motive?
what justify motivation of mass murder in one group versus another.
 
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Fascinating. where did u get the idea the mass murdering has no motive?
what justify motivation of mass murder in one group versus another.
It's specifically terrorism when the motive is for political aims. We don't know anything about the shooter's motive at this time, he was mentally deranged for all we know. Therefore, we cannot call it terrorism yet.
 

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It's specifically terrorism when the motive is for political aims. We don't know anything about the shooter's motive at this time, he was mentally deranged for all we know. Therefore, we cannot call it terrorism yet.

Are 'mentally derange' people exclusive for whites though? I mean i never heard 'lone wolf', 'mentally derange' when mass murdering involved in the other party. It doesn't even need investigation, headline will just automatically shows terrorism.
If so terrorism is an act when motive is for political aims, isn't invasion and oppression of one country to another is a terrorist act itself. Its hugely political when it involves a nation.

There's a huge biased and stereotype which many fail to see.
 
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That statement is so far beyond bullshit its not even funny.

When things like this happen.. For whatever reason gun control is blamed.

The question is not "how did he get the guns?"

It's "how did he get all of them, and the ammo up to the 32nd floor of a hotel and casino?"
Another good question would be "why the hell did he have 10 automated rifles, two bipods, enough ammo to do the damage he did and a house full of explosives in the first place?"
 
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Stricter laws wouldn't have done shit, fully automatic guns are already illegal.

Gun laws only stop law-abiding citizens, criminals don't care about laws; no amount of gun control will prevent pusillanimous criminals from getting them.
 
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Are 'mentally derange' people exclusive for whites though? I mean i never heard 'lone wolf', 'mentally derange' when mass murdering involved in the other party. It doesn't even need investigation, headline will just automatically shows terrorism.
If so terrorism is an act when motive is for political aims, isn't invasion and oppression of one country to another is a terrorist act itself. Its hugely political when it involves a nation.

There's a huge biased and stereotype which many fail to see.
I've heard "lone wolf" used plenty of times. The person behind Sandy Hook was mentally deranged. That's not a rare term, either. I guess you consume a different media diet. This isn't about skin color, we're talking definitions. Not every shooting is a terrorist act. Often times when a mass shooting like this occurs, ISIS or another group claims responsibility and there is a clear link between the shooter and ISIS, or at least a hint of radicalization. Because that happens so often in today's world, the gut instinct when hearing about mass shootings is to consider them terrorism. In the case of Las Vegas, the shooter had no ties to terrorist groups whatsoever, so no one can assume terrorism at this time. However, you can bet that many people's first instinct upon hearing this news was, "Oh no, another terrorist attack!" Meanwhile, look at what happened in Charlottesville a while back. Remember the guy with the car? I would totally call that terrorism, because he ran over people who opposed his political views.

A lone wolf is someone who acts of his own volition. A terrorist acts on behalf of another's volition or in representation of a political view/faction/etc. They're not "lone wolves" because they have a group or identity they back. Someone who is "mentally deranged" has some kind of mental issue that influences their decision to commit a vile act. Terrorists could absolutely be mentally deranged, however the term is often used when non-terrorist shootings occur. I'm surprised you've never heard of mental insanity being used to describe murderers. It's brought up against nearly every shooter.

And yes, invasion and oppression of another country is often called out as terrorism. You're not wrong. However, I don't see how that's relevant to the discussion around the Las Vegas shooting?
 

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