Simple guide to install cIOS on vWii + backup NAND and keys

Azel · Apr 12, 2015

Thanks a bunch for this guide :]

I was just wondering, I'm using my vwii on a 1080p pc monitor and wii system menu and the games (using usb loader gx) aren't 100% fullscreen, whereas usb loader gx are (and Wii U stuff, obviously)
(I remember setting some Wii U overscan mode setting in the usb loader gx settings though)

any ideas ?
thanks for putting this guide together

Cyan · Apr 12, 2015

The overscan setting in USBLoaderGX only affects the displayed area when in the loader.
The games use their own overscan values (if any set by the developers).

I think it's normal that it's not full screen.
try launching a Wii game from disc in vWii connected to a TV, it will be displayed like that too. it's the way it's rendered because Wii never had a real 16:9.
It was a fake one, 4:3 and 16:9 uses the exact same number of pixels width, but the game deform and compress the picture so it appear correctly when stretched by the TV's 16:9 display.

on WiiU the picture sent to the TV is a real widescreen format, so vWii is trying to fit the fake picture on it.

USBLoaderGX use a little more pixel horizontally than games, but still not full widescreen.

Azel · Apr 12, 2015

Wow, ok, thanks for the info, I had no idea, sorry then

really interesting stuff

indiramedina11 · Apr 14, 2015

Hi, thanks for this outstanding guide @[Truth]

I have a simple question: i followed this guide perfectly, so i installed the base 56/249, 57/250 and 58/251 cIOS, but i have read that 56/249 is the only mandatory one and that the other ones are not really necessary.

The question is: how may i safely remove the unnecessary cIOS

For the people that recommends to only stick to 56/249, what could be the down side of installing the extra ones?

Thank you.

mamotte · Apr 15, 2015

Hello, this guide is awesome. A little question: Can I use any hard drive to run the Wii games? If there's no restriction, can you suggest me any brand or model to use? I know I'll have to buy a Y cable to power the disk.

D34DL1N3R · Apr 16, 2015

Is backing up the nand supposed to take hours? LoL.

Edit: Nevermind. Slow SD card I guess.

meaty · Apr 16, 2015

Hello. First of all I know how bothersome people who make new accounts just to ask a simple thing is annoying. So I'll try to be brief.

Is it possible for me to dump the nand into an usb stick? I searched for weeks to find a SD card to do batthax, since everything ever wherever I go is SDHC or microsd, and its 128mb, in short, not big enough to fit the nand.

Any work arround or I have to keep trying to find an decent sized sd card?

Cyan · Apr 16, 2015

indiramedina11 said:
The question is: how may i safely remove the unnecessary cIOS

It's always recommended to not delete IOS. if it doesn't bother you, you can keep them.
If you really want to uninstall, you should use BlueDumpMod (link in the guide) to create a WAD file of the slot you want to uninstall, then use a WAD manager, pick the wad file and select uninstall instead of install. it will delete the content and the ticket.
But, like I said, you should just keep it. It doesn't bother you to have them.

For the people that recommends to only stick to 56/249, what could be the down side of installing the extra ones?

No downside to having them.
If you don't select the slot, they are not used. Only downside would be you lose less than 10 blocks on your NAND.

So, there's no downside to having them, but there is a downside to having only a base56.
base56 is usually recommended because it has the faster USB access. But NOT the best compatibility.
base57 has the best compatibility (it's required for few games, like Call of Duty) and it seems it's compatible with USB HUBs ! it's a little little slower to access USB than base56.
base58 seems to be needed only for some musical games (just dance, sing it, etc.). Base58 is the slowest IOS to access USB drive.

Installing only one cIOS slot is possible, but will depend on your needs.
If you don't need Call of duty or music games, base56 alone is a good choice.
A good choice for single cIOS is also installing base57 in slot249. You don't really need base56 as its only advantage over base57 is the slightly USB access speed it provides. You will really don't notice it a lot.

mamotte said:
Hello, this guide is awesome. A little question: Can I use any hard drive to run the Wii games? If there's no restriction, can you suggest me any brand or model to use? I know I'll have to buy a Y cable to power the disk.

Most HDD should work, but unfortunately not all of them.
You can find a list of tested drives on our Wiki page.
Prefer using Hard drives instead of Flash drive. there are more issue with flash stick/key/drive etc.

D34DL1N3R said:
Is backing up the nand supposed to take hours? LoL.
Edit: Nevermind. Slow SD card I guess.

yes
it depends on your device, but it can take hours

meaty :
if you need SD (not SDHC) for bathax then don't worry.
You can use SDHC after you installed the homebrew channel.
Just use any SD card size for dumpmiiNAND.

MicroSD is fine too for bathax (in fact there's no differences being micro or not).
Did you try bigger card or only read you needed an SD card without trying?
Just try and see if it works.

indiramedina11 · Apr 17, 2015

Hi Cyan !

Thank you very much for your answer, i followed the guide 100% perfectly but later i read your comments about having only 56/249 installed, that's why i asked that question, but now that i got your answer i'm not worried anymore.

Also i read your answer to meaty about SDHC, that's what i did, i did the Smash Stack with an old SD card then switched to a SDHC card and it works nicely.

I also want to let you know that i tried to load games from the SD card, but it didn't worked and looked around the net and got the next information:

BETA52 is much more compatible with SD Cards, and that what i did, i used the d2x installer and installed BETA52 at 56/249.

After that little change i was able to load games directly from the SDHC Card.

Why am i loading games from the SD card?

The answer is simple for me, i do not have a "Y" USB cable for an HDD to be connected to the Wii U, and i don't want my Wii U nagging me about formatting the HDD on each boot (although know there are workarounds).

The SD loading is much better for me, even esthetically is better.

Thanks for all your work and help !

Cyan · Apr 21, 2015

I'm glad the guide helped you and you found more information in the thread.
It's always better to understand what you do instead of following guides without knowing why.

You are saying that you launch Wii game from SD, so I guess you are using Wiiflow or CFG (usbgx is not compatible with wii games on SD).
I didn't know beta53 had issues with SD card. Thank you for sharing this issue

that will help me helping other users.

salserpico · Apr 22, 2015

Hello, this is my first post in this forum.
I have followed the guide to softmod the vWii (I used Lego SW) and everything seems ok... Except that the loaders I have installed (USBLoader GX and WiiFlow) do not go past the loading screen, and afterwards they send me back to the Wii Menu.
Shouldn't the loader run even without any connected device? I'd expect it to just say me "No game found" or similar.

Anyway, I tried to put a game in a wbfs/ folder on a USB pen drive, and it failed.
Then I tried with a powered hard drive and it failed again.
Eventually I put the game on the SD card... with no success.

What should I try or check now?

Cyan · Apr 22, 2015

Returning to system menu is usually a symptom of missing cIOS or trying to launch a game but ISO is bad/not found.
be sure your cIOS are correctly installed. You can re-do the cIOS installation steps over the old one.

Be sure you are using most recent revision of the loaders.
for example, usbloaderGX has now compatibility for vWii and IOS58 that v3.0 didn't have.

salserpico · Apr 22, 2015

Hi Cyan, thanks for your answer.
If I showed you my syscheck output, would it be enough to check if I am missing any cIOS?

SysCheck v2.3.2 HacksDen Edition par JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, et Nano
...tourne sous l'IOS58 (rev 6432).

Region: PAL
Menu Systeme 4.3E (v610)

Date de disque: 06.28.2011
Chaine Channel 1.1.2 utilise IOS58

Hollywood v0x21
Identifiant de la console: 605493887
Type de Console: vWii
Pays de la chaîne boutique: Belgium (67)
Boot2 v0
50 titres trouves.
35 IOS trouves sur cette console. 0 sont des stubs.

vIOS9 (rev 1290): Pas de patches
vIOS12 (rev 782): Pas de patches
vIOS13 (rev 1288): Pas de patches
vIOS14 (rev 1288): Pas de patches
vIOS15 (rev 1288): Pas de patches
vIOS17 (rev 1288): Pas de patches
vIOS21 (rev 1295): Pas de patches
vIOS22 (rev 1550): Pas de patches
vIOS28 (rev 2063): Pas de patches
vIOS31 (rev 3864): Pas de patches
vIOS33 (rev 3864): Pas de patches
vIOS34 (rev 3864): Pas de patches
vIOS35 (rev 3864): Pas de patches
vIOS36 (rev 3864): Pas de patches
vIOS37 (rev 5919): Pas de patches
vIOS38 (rev 4380): Pas de patches
vIOS41 (rev 3863): Pas de patches
vIOS43 (rev 3863): Pas de patches
vIOS45 (rev 3863): Pas de patches
vIOS46 (rev 3863): Pas de patches
vIOS48 (rev 4380): Pas de patches
vIOS53 (rev 5919): Pas de patches
vIOS55 (rev 5919): Pas de patches
vIOS56 (rev 5918): Pas de patches
vIOS57 (rev 6175): Pas de patches
vIOS58 (rev 6432): USB 2.0
vIOS59 (rev 9249): Pas de patches
vIOS62 (rev 6942): Pas de patches
vIOS80 (rev 7200): Pas de patches
vIOS236 (rev 65535): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, Acces NAND
IOS249[56] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt-vWii): Trucha Bug, Acces NAND
IOS250[57] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt-vWii): Trucha Bug, Acces NAND
IOS251[58] (rev 21010, Info: d2x-v10beta53-alt-vWii): Trucha Bug, Acces NAND
vIOS512 (rev 7): Pas de patches
vIOS513 (rev 1): Pas de patches
Rapport genere le 2015/04/22.

Cyan · Apr 22, 2015

it should be fine.
you can try to install v10 beta52 instead of beta53 if you don't need multiple USB ports for USBLoaders.

Try with latest revision of the loaders (usbgx latest revision is in my signature)

If it doesn't work then I don't know why.

salserpico · Apr 22, 2015

Installing USBGX r1224 as an app works!
But I'm not sure I'm following: why a Loader installed as a channel doesn't work? Even putting v10 beta52 does not change anything.

Edit: Never mind. It was self-evident that there was no loader really installed, but only the channel...
Thank you for the help!

EmceeKerser · May 23, 2015

This post should be cross stickied with the homebrew forum

ken_cinder · May 24, 2015

Cyan said:
Yes, there's something they are doing wrong : They think they can use their own links and tools instead of following tutorial's links. Users with issues are users who don't follow steps correctly.
They often think "the tutorial tells me to use version 2.2 mod, but version 3.1 is available !!! 3.1 is better because newer !!", and this is were they are wrong.
vWii softmod NEEDS d2x installer v2.2mod.

The Installer allows users to add new cIOS data to be installed manually in case of future cIOS release.
The installer itself was released when d2x v6 was released, so it contains v4, v5 and v6 only.
v7 and above need to be added manually to the installer's folder in order to list them in the homebrew and install them on the console.

If the users download the standalone installer from d2x googlecode, they will get only v6 as a choice.
They need to download d2x v10 separately and copy the d2x data into the installer folder.

Users who wanted to install a different version always had to re-create a different installer+data version.
for example, there were a "installer+v10" and a "installer+v10alt". Two different folders to generate in order to choose the cIOS to install.

To prevent this folder generation step, and because a LOT of users don't understand how to unpack a zip and copy a file to another folder location properly, and because the installer allows multiple version listed at the same time, I created a package with ALL the d2x version data already included in the installer.
The softmod guides in this thread contains the full package with all versions (well, on vWii only v10 can be installed, but on Wii I made a package with v6, v7, v8, v10).
The other softmod guide we have still tells the user to choose, download and extract the cIOS manually.

You should redirect your users to this thread or link to the already generated installer+data.

d2x installer v3.1 for WII : d2x v4, v5, v6, v7, v8, v10, v10-alt
d2x installer v2.2 mod for vWii : d2x v10, v10-alt
The Mod2.2 doesn't require IOS on root of SD Card or Online access! it extracts base IOS data from NAND.
Wii version is using 3.1 which required network or baseIOS on SD card because every users has a different version of NAND. we can't rely on their NAND to get base IOS.

You can use non-mod installer on vWii too, but it's more complicated and require additional steps : extracting IOS from NAND (should be done anyway, it's part of semi-brick prevention!), placing required base IOS on SD, using offline method in the installer.
2.2mod is recommended for vWii.

I'm using the tools in the tutorial link and I can't select anything but d2x v3-v6, v10 doesn't show up at all. The v10 folder is there, but they're not showing up.

Edit: I was running the installer from my USB drive, once I ran it from SD it worked.

Cyan · May 24, 2015

I didn't know running the installer from USB had issues.
You had usb and sd connected at the same time? or you just tried with USB first, then SD because USB didn't work?

Having other devices connected when doing a hack could be bad.
maybe we should note that in the guide.

If you had old temporary files on your SD card used to hack your Wii, and decided to use USB to not delete your old SD files, it could have been bad.
the program, thinking the found files were correct temporary files from vWii, could have installed Wii files instead of extracting the correct one for vWii.

Good thing that it worked fine for you.

ken_cinder · May 24, 2015

I tried with USB first, then SD and it worked. Had nothing else on the SD card, and nothing present on the USB drive that could have caused problems. I still had the USB drive hooked up when using SD.

Replacing my Wii with the Wii U...getting cluttered. Hating the lack of Cube ports though, gonna have to get an adapter.

JohnnyZ · Jun 19, 2015

I need help please. I installed the beta 52 version but i want to install the beta 53 now. But the Custom Cios Installer does not detect the beta 53 version, only the 52. Thanks a lot.

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