What Party do you support in USA?

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  1. SG854

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    I'm neither. I go for what works best. The problem is some policies that work in some places wont work in others.
    I go for whatever works best for a particular case, scenario or country. If Communism works really well for a country, then i'll support it. If it doesn't then I won't. If less communistic ideals works best then i'll support that. I'm for what ever works best. Different countries has different needs and policies.
     
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  2. SirBeethoven

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    I thought that I was the only one who thought this... I guess I shouldn’t assume
     
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  3. urherenow

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    The party with free booze, weed, and clothing optional.
     
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  4. brickmii82

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    I find it difficult to pick a political party to align with. I guess I feel like it’s childish to be “with these guys or those guys.” It’s a clique mentality, and I’m not one to be told how I should think or feel.
     
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  5. hoist20032002

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    Neither. I have felt that we've needed a 3rd party system instead of people throwing their votes away or voting for less of 2 greater evils. Republitards and Demonrats are both outdated party factions that do more harm than good.
     
  6. CallmeBerto

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    Both suck in general.

    Sometimes I agree with the left on X and sometimes the right on Y. Sometimes I disagree with both. There is my biggest issue. I never feel like I'm represented in any real way.

    The problem is really the people who put up with it. They treat politics like it's sports agro with me or with them.
     
  7. TotalInsanity4

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    There are typically a lot of third party options. The problem is that they never end up getting any money for advertising
     
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    Hahaha you are right and I completely forgot about them. Yeah they only make up 3%-5% of people who vote for them. Guess I am apart of the problem in that case.
     
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  9. Lacius

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    I very much support the Democratic Party. The Green Party's not so bad when you exclude the effect they've had on some elections.
     
  10. TotalInsanity4

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    That's part of it, but the bigger issue really is funding. I honestly would rather that we switch over to the European campaign model, where every candidate is automatically allotted a certain amount of money to use how they wish for the campaign (on top of fundraising efforts), but are barred from using personal funds
     
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  11. Hanafuda

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    I am a fiscal conservative, but not a social conservative. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, to me, means we should be free to do as we wish up to the point where our actions interfere with someone else's life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. That means MJ should be legal, and same sex marriage should never have been an issue in the first place. It also means, however, that affirmative action should be abolished, and that social welfare programs should be much more limited and dependent on working for the benefits. If you're receiving welfare you're taking from others, so put something in while you're at it. Also, since we are a taxed nation, I believe in preserving the integrity of our sovereignty and that means secure borders and merit-based immigration. I don't let my neighbors' dogs eat my dogs' food, so why should I be ok with the government doing that with my money?

    As for the two major political parties, I have reached the conclusion that the only difference between a Democrat and a Republican is what they want the Government to not let the other do.
     
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  12. kuwanger

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    I mostly believe what you say, but I'd say the above is a contradiction to fiscal conservatism to a degree. Yes, immigrants by their nature do take advantage of various services (roads, police, etc) that they don't necessarily pay for immediately or ever. But over any reasonable period of time, they'll start paying taxes and then income taxes because people need to eat, have shelter, etc and they'll either (1) work for it or (2) import the money and spend it. The simple truth is in the short term, the US and many other countries need more workers to fulfill the social security ratio hole. In the long term (which legally needs changed now), social security needs to greatly reduced to accommodate a realistic ratio of workers to beneficiaries.

    Beyond taxes, it's illogical to suggest that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness are ideals that constrained to the borders of the USA. If goods can be imported to the US towards those end*, it stands to reason services and people should be allowed to follow as well for the same ends*. This is rather the cornerstone of capitalism and libertarianism: goods and people are part of the economic engine and the free movement of both is the cornerstone of a free market. It's little surprise then that, short of some exceptions**, immigration (even mass immigration) is beneficial to the host country because it causes a market correction that overall is beneficial to society.

    Personally, though, it comes down to liberty to me. No government owns me and shouldn't be allowed to forbid me from entering or leaving without specific reason: criminal action even would be reason for detainment, not deportation and exile. If I can't find a way to survive legally wherever I go, I'll just have to move again--possibly back to where I was from--regardless of whether I cross a border or not along the way. Caging people in or out is its own sort of prison. I know realistically there's a limit to this from a practical perspective and always some risk of fifth invasion or the like, so I can understand some need for a quota system or the like. Clearly, though, the quota system we have now has little bearing on those concerns.

    * Pursuit of happiness != property, but from a practical perspective in today's economy and considered the lack of frontier land to claim, people have to work in some fashion to live in a country for an extended period of time --barring some immense wealth. So, one way or the other people will work and spend money and taxes will be collected. One can argue the idea that taxes will go up to compensate for the time delay between immigrants using services vs paying for them or them being in low paying jobs not contributing as much, but that holds true for children as well, and we don't use that as an argument for government controlling family size. Besides, government will, if it can get voters to flaccidly agree, find a way to justify its spending and taxes as it pleases.

    ** There's always exceptions, except for the rule of there's always exceptions. :) Seriously, though, there have been studies that show the overall result that immigration economically benefits society. It's just something that might take a generation or two to fully kick in. Honestly, though, since I'm more concerned about the liberty issue than the economic one, it doesn't matter to me as much if we "suffer" the exception. I don't have a notion of US society as a static thing that immigration may destroy. I think that's just an illusion, like most things in life.
     
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  13. MaverickWellington

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    Dude that's an awesome idea, why are we not doing this? Fuckin hell.
     
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  14. Orangy57

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    mario party

    nah but democratic
     
  15. TotalInsanity4

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    Good question. It probably has to do with the stigma that the people who would best lead the nation are the ones with the most money.

    I believe Seattle actually experimented with campaign vouchers, which is a similar idea (all citizens get to choose where vouchers go to support their candidate of choice). The conservative party detested it, though, because it was somehow inhibiting corporations right to lobby iirc (which is bs)
     
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  16. RustInPeace

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    I support the Bachelor Party.



    Otherwise, nobody.
     
  17. MaverickWellington

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    Interesting. I actually plan to move to Washington in the near future, hopefully they let this shit happen and tell the conservatives and the lobbyists to fuck off. Lobbying is already a big enough problem as it is and imo should just be entirely outlawed. Presentations, information, that's one thing. Lobbying is another.
     
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  18. Stephano

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    y u wanna know?
    Pizza Party
     
  19. HaloEliteLegend

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    I support the Mario Party





    Jokes aside, I'm independent. No loyalties.
     
  20. SG854

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    Any party that has beer, music and girls.