Kanye West is one of the greatest music artists of ALL TIME

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Kanye's music? Meh, only watch the throne with Jay-Z is good. Kanye as a person? Don't even get me started, his love for himself and his inverted racism are just the tip of the turd iceberg. Really, really far away from being a great artist (as long as being an ass isn't art)
 
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>Implying any of the contemporary rappers are "true gangsta" or that underground rap songs are any good

Oh, please. The moment a musician hits it big he or she stops "representing the poor" or singing about "true life of da street" because that's not their life anymore. If you actually believe that any well-known rapper actually "represents da hood", whatever that may entail, you need a facts check - they're ri*h as f*ck and have no clue. It's all make-believe, it's been like this since rap and hip-hop became accepted music genres.

Some rappers have had to work there way up from a hard ground and have found what it means to be successful in there life, some rappers who even represented the poor where cut out because the other side of rap (the horrible side in my opinion) was more likely favored. Of course that does not mean most rap artist have been through a scenario like this because if you talk about the street all day a represent your money count to be thousands upon thousands of dollars than you don't know what it is like to live in "Da hood"
 

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Some rappers have had to work there way up from a hard ground and have found what it means to be successful in there life, some rappers who even represented the poor where cut out because the other side of rap (the bad side) was more likely favored. Of course that does not mean most rap artist have been through a scenario like this because if you talk about the street all day a represent your money count to be thousands upon thousands of dollars than you don't know what it is like to live in "Da hood"
That's not what I mean. There are several rappers who used to live in areas that were stricken by poverty, some rappers used to be involved in shady activities, but used to are the keywords here. Anyone who actually believes that when a rapper sings "hurr durr I'mma shoot dat wigga in da face, homie represent!" does just that in his spare time is just naive. Musicians have to be law-abiding citizens, they pay their taxes, they fill out forms like every bread eater and the only things that are "gangsta" about them are their poor money management skills.
 

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I though this was going to be some sarcastic/troll topic, but he is really serious about it.....

this generation...

I will just keep listening to Pink Floyd and other progressive artist/bands, like Steven Wilson c:

 

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I remember when I went through my "rap is crap" phase, too, but it's something you've just gotta grow out of. Music's a whole lot more interesting when you don't arbitrarily shut out entire genres or artists.

I like Kanye, he's pretty good. Yeezus was a great album. I don't listen to a whole lot of rap, but I definitely want to try more after listening to his output. The conversation's a little pointless, though, when we all already know that the title belongs to one man... THE DOG.



Kanye West is talented, but as to saying he is the greatest? seems very inaccurate. I have two of his albums which is College dropout, and Late Registration, and those honestly were his best when he was at his prime. Now when I heard Yeezus, I never ever wanted to hear a song ever from him again. Kanye West is a genius, but all his rage on all of his shows make him look like a douche, which he isn't, hes just stressing out over stuff. Now as my favorite rappers, it would probably be

1. Kendrick Lamar
2. Logic
3. Childish Gambino
4. Jay Z
5. Kanye West


>Childish Gambino
>Better rapper than anyone

I like Donald Glover, but he's a far better actor and comedian than rapper. He has a couple of good songs. It's also weird that you criticize Kanye West for "stressing out over stuff" when literally all of Childish Gambino's music is Donald drowning in his neuroses.
 
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I remember when I went through my "rap is crap" phase, too, but it's something you've just gotta grow out of. Music's a whole lot more interesting when you don't arbitrarily shut out entire genres or artists.

I like Kanye, he's pretty good. Yeezus was a great album. I don't listen to a whole lot of rap, but I definitely want to try more after listening to his output. The conversation's a little pointless, though, when we all already know that the title belongs to one man... THE DOG.

If you're (or anyone else) interested in trying out some more rap, I'd recommend one album first.



It's a stellar recent release and definitely worth a listen.
 
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I remember when I went through my "rap is crap" phase, too, but it's something you've just gotta grow out of. Music's a whole lot more interesting when you don't arbitrarily shut out entire genres or artists.

I like Kanye, he's pretty good. Yeezus was a great album. I don't listen to a whole lot of rap, but I definitely want to try more after listening to his output. The conversation's a little pointless, though, when we all already know that the title belongs to one man... THE DOG.






>Childish Gambino
>Better rapper than anyone

I like Donald Glover, but he's a far better actor and comedian than rapper. He has a couple of good songs. It's also weird that you criticize Kanye West for "stressing out over stuff" when literally all of Childish Gambino's music is Donald drowning in his neuroses.




Well, I haven't really pay all that much attention to all of Childish Gambino's music that much, but as of lately with his somewhat new songs "Crawl, Sweatpants" and "The Worst Guys" is making me like him way more. Just saying those 3 tracks alone is showing me that gambino is improving quite well.
Also I don't know if you seen his old Bet cypher, and his freestyle on sway, but those are amazing. You should check it out if you haven't.
 

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>Implying any of the contemporary rappers are "true gangsta" or that underground rap songs are any good

Oh, please. The moment a musician hits it big he or she stops "representing the poor" or singing about "true life of da street" because that's not their life anymore. If you actually believe that any well-known rapper actually "represents da hood", whatever that may entail, you need a facts check - they're ri*h as f*ck and have no clue. It's all make-believe, it's been like this since rap and hip-hop became accepted music genres.


Nope sorry, I don't worship that stereo type you are speaking of. There is more to write poetry about than life on the streets, to listen to such a topic over and over again would make the mind very 2 dimensional I'd think.

And now... for some examples of alternatives...

Public Enemy
Saul Williams
Payday Monsanto

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Nope sorry, I don't worship that stereo type you are speaking of. There is more to write poetry about than life on the streets, to listen to such a topic over and over again would make the mind very 2 dimensional I'd think.
That is a very 2-dimensional way of thinking indeed, but many people think that if a rap song isn't about "hood life" it's not proper rap - good to hear that you're not thinking along those lines. :)
 
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I remember when I went through my "rap is crap" phase, too, but it's something you've just gotta grow out of. Music's a whole lot more interesting when you don't arbitrarily shut out entire genres or artists.

I like Kanye, he's pretty good. Yeezus was a great album. I don't listen to a whole lot of rap, but I definitely want to try more after listening to his output. The conversation's a little pointless, though, when we all already know that the title belongs to one man... THE DOG.






>Childish Gambino
>Better rapper than anyone

I like Donald Glover, but he's a far better actor and comedian than rapper. He has a couple of good songs. It's also weird that you criticize Kanye West for "stressing out over stuff" when literally all of Childish Gambino's music is Donald drowning in his neuroses.


Always thought it was the other way around... Growing out of the "rap" phase :P
 

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That is a very 2-dimensional way of thinking indeed, but many people think that if a rap song isn't about "hood life" it's not proper rap - good to hear that you're not thinking along those lines. :)

Though I'm still a fool, I am at least too old and too wise to fall for that trap. Thanks! :)
 

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Omg, Kanye not?

Can't stand his music, it's nothing new and there isn't any great talent there to give it any merit IMHO, that and the fact I dislike the genre as a whole anyway, but saying it's 'the best music of this generation' is a step too far for me not to comment on.

Still, maybe I'm just looking at the musical side too much and not whatever everyone else sees in it, dunno.
 

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