Hacking Emulation POPS on PSP/Vita - Config Research

OPPAI_DAISUKI · Dec 19, 2023

Jayplay17 said:
do these compatibility patches from POP-Fe only work with 6.60+ POPs? how about lower versions of POPs? (3.XX to 5.XX)

it will not boot (Below 6.60) as soon as you select any pops when booting the game (holding R)... as the first lines of config was:
Offsets:
00000400 5F 53 4C 45 53 5F 31 32 33 34 35 00 00 00 00 00 _SLES_12345.....GAME ID
00000410 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................ Padding, below everything in 4 bytes units:
00000420 70 00 07 06 00 00 06 06 00 00 00 00 FF FF FF FF p...........˙˙˙˙ Revision, Revision

06 00 00 06 digits is PSP Cfw/FW version which is 6.60
(THOUGH you can delete 06 00 00 06 just 00 00 00 00) but i havent tested if the config still works or work its functions... i only tried it on Colin Mcrae 2.1 PAL....

Webardo · Dec 19, 2023

OPPAI_DAISUKI said:
06 00 00 06 digits is PSP Cfw/FW version which is 6.60
(THOUGH you can delete 06 00 00 06 just 00 00 00 00) but i havent tested if the config still works or work its functions... i only tried it on Colin Mcrae 2.1 PAL....

If you delete the revision excerpt it won't detect the config, so it's the same as turning it off. And even if there was a way to use the configs on lower firmwares than 5.XX, same settings will do different things, which may mess things up.
I had gotten to boot a config on 6.39 by extracting the revision from Chrono Cross's PSN eboot and using it, although it wasn't that useful...

Jayplay17 · Dec 21, 2023

Webardo said:
If you delete the revision excerpt it won't detect the config, so it's the same as turning it off. And even if there was a way to use the configs on lower firmwares than 5.XX, same settings will do different things, which may mess things up.
I had gotten to boot a config on 6.39 by extracting the revision from Chrono Cross's PSN eboot and using it, although it wasn't that useful...

I had an idea to test configs on lower versions of POPS. because i thought perhaps there is a chance that some games may run better on lower POPS version, due to the following reasons:

higher version of POPS take up more processing load (due to more configs and options)
lower version of POPS take up lesser processing load
Many Sony's PSN EBOOT configs were not configured correctly and had to be fixed

I'm enjoying the Crash Team Racing config so far. It's actually really smooth. However occasionally there is a sudden single frameskip, but it happens rarely (I notice it happens often upon my first weapon use in a race).

OPPAI_DAISUKI · Dec 21, 2023

Jayplay17 said:
I had an idea to test configs on lower versions of POPS. because i thought perhaps there is a chance that some games may run better on lower POPS version, due to the following reasons:

higher version of POPS take up more processing load (due to more configs and options)

lower version of POPS take up lesser processing load

Many Sony's PSN EBOOT configs were not configured correctly and had to be fixed

for me maybe it depends on the game you wanted on how you want them to play... like for example i like playing Colin Mcrae 2.1 BUT PAL is the best version...if i played it on original (6.60) the CONS is it plays slow (50hz),the PROS is i can adjust the screen to full THOUGH if i used 5.50 there is no screen adjustment and i have Black Bars thats also a CONS... and then i tried lower pops the cars runs like 60fps but the background music plays fast and the CONS are few Menus when pressing Home and no full Screen Adjustments... so still depends on the game you wanna play... in my thinking configs helps the game struggled to play smoothly and for me at least 6.00 above pops is the best choice as you can adjust the screen to full and you can configure the control buttons the way you want them... like FPS Games like Quake 2 and Medal of Honor...

and for Colin Mcrae 2.1 i converted it into NTSC via Zapper and add widescreen + pops config for better and nice permorfance.. it sucks that codemasters TOCA 2 suffers graphical issues while you are in race.... sigh....

Webardo · Dec 21, 2023

Jayplay17 said:
I had an idea to test configs on lower versions of POPS. because i thought perhaps there is a chance that some games may run better on lower POPS version, due to the following reasons:

higher version of POPS take up more processing load (due to more configs and options)

lower version of POPS take up lesser processing load

Many Sony's PSN EBOOT configs were not configured correctly and had to be fixed

It's not a bad idea to keep this in mind honestly, there could be some cases after all. Although the same settings do different things depending on the version, so it's better to leave it as a last resort.

Jayplay17 said:
I'm enjoying the Crash Team Racing config so far. It's actually really smooth. However occasionally there is a sudden single frameskip, but it happens rarely (I notice it happens often upon my first weapon use in a race).

Does this happen with any weapon or a specific one? Also, when did you make your eboot? I updated the config last month based on the one the Vita uses along with the custom config, but perhaps I should leave as it was before...

Jayplay17 · Dec 23, 2023

Webardo said:
Does this happen with any weapon or a specific one? Also, when did you make your eboot? I updated the config last month based on the one the Vita uses along with the custom config, but perhaps I should leave as it was before...

I created the EBOOT just a few days ago. It happens with any weapon used.
Is there a way to use older versions of configs? As you said the configs get updated, but it could be that sometimes slightly older configs may work better

Snowbro88 · Dec 23, 2023

@mrjaredbeta Hello boss, just thank you for the configs for the games on the list that I suggested, I have already converted them and in general they all work very well except for Iznogoud where you can now access the gameplay but it has certain fps drops that are quite noticeable.

I know that you told us that you would take a break but I want to tell you that in the case of the fix for Treasures of the Deep when I run it on Vita Adrenaline I only get a black screen and the sounds are heard, I think that maybe in this case you had some detail that you missed when uploading the configs.

And using the same config that @OPPAI_DAISUKI left for Crusaders of Might and Magic also works perfectly for Dare Devil Derby (Supersonic Racers), now it goes full speed.

Finally, guys, I want to ask you which configs that exist for other games are the most recommended to solve performance problems?

I'm trying to find one config for X-Bladez Inline Skater and another for the unreleased game Plane Crazy, in the last case only find an eboot previously converted for PSP on archive org, I don't have the original image but it is possible to extract the bin cue with the batch function of PSX2PSP, these 2 games also present performance problems.

Thank you and Happy Holidays to all.

OPPAI_DAISUKI · Dec 23, 2023

Snowbro88 said:
@mrjaredbeta Hello boss, just thank you for the configs for the games on the list that I suggested, I have already converted them and in general they all work very well except for Iznogoud where you can now access the gameplay but it has certain fps drops that are quite noticeable.

I know that you told us that you would take a break but I want to tell you that in the case of the fix for Treasures of the Deep when I run it on Vita Adrenaline I only get a black screen and the sounds are heard, I think that maybe in this case you had some detail that you missed when uploading the configs.

And using the same config that @OPPAI_DAISUKI left for Crusaders of Might and Magic also works perfectly for Dare Devil Derby (Supersonic Racers), now it goes full speed.

Finally, guys, I want to ask you which configs that exist for other games are the most recommended to solve performance problems?

I'm trying to find one config for X-Bladez Inline Skater and another for the unreleased game Plane Crazy, in the last case only find an eboot previously converted for PSP on archive org, I don't have the original image but it is possible to extract the bin cue with the batch function of PSX2PSP, these 2 games also present performance problems.

Thank you and Happy Holidays to all.

oh thats nice...some configs works on other games also but still you need to play or test the game if it has side effects and if you wanted to create your own config you can study or follow the guide on https://www.psdevwiki.com/psp/POPS... Compatibility Section is where you adjust the offsets... thats where i found a working config for Crusaders of Might and Magic....

Webardo · Dec 23, 2023

Jayplay17 said:
I created the EBOOT just a few days ago. It happens with any weapon used.
Is there a way to use older versions of configs? As you said the configs get updated, but it could be that sometimes slightly older configs may work better

You can download older builds from the actions tab on pop-fe's github. Either way, I'll have to change that CTR config.

Snowbro88 said:
I know that you told us that you would take a break but I want to tell you that in the case of the fix for Treasures of the Deep when I run it on Vita Adrenaline I only get a black screen and the sounds are heard, I think that maybe in this case you had some detail that you missed when uploading the configs.

Which region did you use? PAL or NTSC? I think I know what's missing from that config, so I'll upload a fix in a few hours.

Snowbro88 said:
Finally, guys, I want to ask you which configs that exist for other games are the most recommended to solve performance problems?

Honestly, I'm not sure which could work the best for that. Most of these are made specifically per game. You could try to make a config based on SLPS-01222, SLPS-02480 and SCPS-10087 and see which is best.

Snowbro88 · Dec 23, 2023

@Webardo in the case of Treasures of the Deep I use the PAL Spain version.

mrjaredbeta · Dec 23, 2023

Snowbro88 said:
I know that you told us that you would take a break but I want to tell you that in the case of the fix for Treasures of the Deep when I run it on Vita Adrenaline I only get a black screen and the sounds are heard, I think that maybe in this case you had some detail that you missed when uploading the configs.

Snowbro88 said:
in general they all work very well except for Iznogoud where you can now access the gameplay but it has certain fps drops that are quite noticeable.

Thank you for testing! Those were definitely mistakes on my end when moving configs over to other games.

@Webardo Treasures of the Deep only needs command 0x08 to fix the graphical issues and it doe not need anything with cmd -1 (which I believe might have been carried over from another config when testing). Iznogoud probably needs something else from cmd -1 to fix slowdown...I only tested to make sure FMV did not freeze the game. I won't have any time between now and after the holidays to really do much!

svrgtapsp3000 · Dec 23, 2023

Is it possible this new mode can be used to fix Bushido Blade on psp? The ending cutscenes never worked on any POPS version.

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JJJIII said:
Is it possible this new mode can be used to fix Bushido Blade on psp? The ending cutscenes never worked on any POPS version.

Nvrmnd, I ran it through setregion and changed the id like you guys said and the cutscenes work! Thanks everybody for figuring this out

Webardo · Dec 23, 2023

JJJIII said:
Is it possible this new mode can be used to fix Bushido Blade on psp? The ending cutscenes never worked on any POPS version.

Post automatically merged: Dec 23, 2023

Nvrmnd, I ran it through setregion and changed the id like you guys said and the cutscenes work! Thanks everybody for figuring this out

Could please you say what ID you used?

mrjaredbeta said:
Treasures of the Deep only needs command 0x08 to fix the graphical issues and it doe not need anything with cmd -1 (which I believe might have been carried over from another config when testing). Iznogoud probably needs something else from cmd -1 to fix slowdown...I only tested to make sure FMV did not freeze the game. I won't have any time between now and after the holidays to really do much!

Thanks! I'll fix them up then.

svrgtapsp3000 · Dec 23, 2023

Webardo said:
Could please you say what ID you used?

Thanks! I'll fix them up then.

I used ID SLPM-86020

Webardo · Dec 23, 2023

JJJIII said:
I used ID SLPM-86020

I see. I recommend you to use pop-fe to convert your games, it has fixes be automatically applied.

Using SetRegion-GUI is useful only if looking to make a fix yourself by looking at the configs here.

The_Ho · Dec 24, 2023

Hi friends, forgive my absence, I'm working a lot now, and closer to 2024 I believe it will be even more, and more family attention.

But answering "Summarized".

Yes, I finished Ace Combat 3 with Patch in English, I also played the Japanese version a little and everything is perfect, I did all the endings of the game.

NOTE: The translation I used was not one of the most up-to-date, so it crashes when trying to read the files, it is not a POPs error, this is due to the translation, and it is reported.

The most I managed to improve for Sheep Raider was creating the config on top of SLPS 01222, I didn't test much further, did you find any errors yet?

Mega Man is slow in the water phases, the jump is like jumping on the moon, but the boots help and I didn't find it unplayable, I even finished the game very easily, without stress. (Easier than Zelda Oot's water dungeon lol).

I can try to send Jackie Chan's save, yes, I just need to have some free time. But there is a stage selection cheat that is very easy to do and you can jump straight to the subway stage, there is the worst slowdown in the game, if you fix it there, I think the rest will go well.

- Final Fantasy VI (USA): Completed, without any apparent serious problems.

- Inuyasha (JP): Finished, no problems. - Gundam Battle Assault 2(USA): Completed without problems.

Now I really need to focus on work and family a little or I'll be ruined lol.

But I come back occasionally.

Happy holidays to everyone and have a great end of the year.

When I created this topic I didn't imagine that so many intelligent and hard-working people would appear, I am very grateful to all of you.

You deserve good health, happiness in life and victories for everyone.

NOTE: Sorry for not tagging anyone, but I know you will identify yourself xD Big hug.

OPPAI_DAISUKI · Dec 24, 2023

The_Ho said:
Hi friends, forgive my absence, I'm working a lot now, and closer to 2024 I believe it will be even more, and more family attention.

But answering "Summarized".

Yes, I finished Ace Combat 3 with Patch in English, I also played the Japanese version a little and everything is perfect, I did all the endings of the game.

NOTE: The translation I used was not one of the most up-to-date, so it crashes when trying to read the files, it is not a POPs error, this is due to the translation, and it is reported.

The most I managed to improve for Sheep Raider was creating the config on top of SLPS 01222, I didn't test much further, did you find any errors yet?

Mega Man is slow in the water phases, the jump is like jumping on the moon, but the boots help and I didn't find it unplayable, I even finished the game very easily, without stress. (Easier than Zelda Oot's water dungeon lol).

I can try to send Jackie Chan's save, yes, I just need to have some free time. But there is a stage selection cheat that is very easy to do and you can jump straight to the subway stage, there is the worst slowdown in the game, if you fix it there, I think the rest will go well.

- Final Fantasy VI (USA): Completed, without any apparent serious problems.

- Inuyasha (JP): Finished, no problems. - Gundam Battle Assault 2(USA): Completed without problems.

Now I really need to focus on work and family a little or I'll be ruined lol.

But I come back occasionally.

Happy holidays to everyone and have a great end of the year.

When I created this topic I didn't imagine that so many intelligent and hard-working people would appear, I am very grateful to all of you.

You deserve good health, happiness in life and victories for everyone.

NOTE: Sorry for not tagging anyone, but I know you will identify yourself xD Big hug.

No problem Sir!!!! HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!! and MERRY CHRISTMAS SIR!!!!

Webardo · Dec 24, 2023

The_Ho said:
Yes, I finished Ace Combat 3 with Patch in English, I also played the Japanese version a little and everything is perfect, I did all the endings of the game.

NOTE: The translation I used was not one of the most up-to-date, so it crashes when trying to read the files, it is not a POPs error, this is due to the translation, and it is reported.

Ok, thanks for helping out with this too!

The_Ho said:
The most I managed to improve for Sheep Raider was creating the config on top of SLPS 01222, I didn't test much further, did you find any errors yet?

The config is fully playable, there's just a minor issue in which fog dissapears when running, but it's more of an issue with POPS itself than anything else.

The_Ho said:
Happy holidays to everyone and have a great end of the year.

When I created this topic I didn't imagine that so many intelligent and hard-working people would appear, I am very grateful to all of you.

You deserve good health, happiness in life and victories for everyone.

You enjoy your holidays too, thank you for everything man. :grog:

Snowbro88 said:
@Webardo in the case of Treasures of the Deep I use the PAL Spain version.

So, I fixed the Treasures of the Deep config, but Iznogoud doesn't get past the intro FMV on my PSP. Did you try it on a Vita?

Snowbro88 · Dec 24, 2023

@Webardo I usually play on PS Vita adrenaline, I have a PSP Fat but the stick no longer works well, anyway Iznogoud tested it on Vita and I can play but in one part of the scenario it slows down too much, I injected the config manually with the editor hexadecimal from the files that @mrjaredbeta left on psx place, in any case it is not a very good game, if it worked more fluidly and with better control similar to Megadrive's Aladdin it would be a good game.

Without any config something similar to you happens to me, I only get a black screen and some sounds are heard.

A game that seems good to me and so far does not work on PSP or Adrenaline is Attack of the Saucerman, it is made by some Psygnosis studio and seems interesting, exclusive to Europe.

Webardo · Dec 24, 2023

Snowbro88 said:
@Webardo I usually play on PS Vita adrenaline, I have a PSP Fat but the stick no longer works well, anyway Iznogoud tested it on Vita and I can play but in one part of the scenario it slows down too much, I injected the config manually with the editor hexadecimal from the files that @mrjaredbeta left on psx place, in any case it is not a very good game, if it worked more fluidly and with better control similar to Megadrive's Aladdin it would be a good game.

Without any config something similar to you happens to me, I only get a black screen and some sounds are heard.

I see... I think this game is kinda like Worms, in which the FMVs don't work on PSP (even with a config) and do on Vita (with the proper config). Sadly, I can't test it properly with what I have.

Snowbro88 said:
A game that seems good to me and so far does not work on PSP or Adrenaline is Attack of the Saucerman, it is made by some Psygnosis studio and seems interesting, exclusive to Europe.

What's the problem with it?

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