Homebrew PS1/2 Emulator Project WiiSX / CubeSX (PCSXGC) with Lightrec Project - Beta testers & feedback needed!

MeXen · Apr 6, 2024

pcercuei said:
You say framerate is more jittery in WiiSX than in Wiistation. You have proof for that? Because I'm seeing the opposite.

As you wish

pcercuei · Apr 6, 2024

I'm not watching a 2h video. Give me timestamps of comparison points.

Also, second comment on your video says "Wiisx feels a bit less choppy and the sound is more accurate than wiistation". Looks like I'm not the only one disagreeing with you.

MeXen · Apr 6, 2024

pcercuei said:
I'm not watching a 2h video. Give me timestamps of comparison points.

Also, second comment on your video says "Wiisx feels a bit less choppy and the sound is more accurate than wiistation". Looks like I'm not the only one disagreeing with you.

wow, how childish, youtube render the final video at 30fps, but the comparison is more noticable with DoA and Tekken3

pcercuei · Apr 7, 2024

Well I'm asking you to show me the difference in jittering / performance, you send me a 2 hours video. It'd be more useful to have a one-on-one comparison. Or at least a method that I can use to compare the two, where the difference would be obvious.

For instance: "boot Looney Tunes Sheep Raider, note the FPS counter at the language selection screen".
Note that if you actually do that, you'll see that Wiistation holds ~47fps, while WiiSX runs at 60fps at that exact point. So yeah, unless you can actually show or point to the difference in jittering, I call that BS.

MeXen · Apr 11, 2024

pcercuei said:
Well I'm asking you to show me the difference in jittering / performance, you send me a 2 hours video. It'd be more useful to have a one-on-one comparison. Or at least a method that I can use to compare the two, where the difference would be obvious.

For instance: "boot Looney Tunes Sheep Raider, note the FPS counter at the language selection screen".
Note that if you actually do that, you'll see that Wiistation holds ~47fps, while WiiSX runs at 60fps at that exact point. So yeah, unless you can actually show or point to the difference in jittering, I call that BS.

Considering you are new here, you shouldn't really act that entitled.

Disorarara · Apr 11, 2024

MeXen said:
Considering you are new here, you shouldn't really act that entitled.

He's the author of lightrec.

pcercuei said:
Well I'm asking you to show me the difference in jittering / performance, you send me a 2 hours video. It'd be more useful to have a one-on-one comparison. Or at least a method that I can use to compare the two, where the difference would be obvious.

For instance: "boot Looney Tunes Sheep Raider, note the FPS counter at the language selection screen".
Note that if you actually do that, you'll see that Wiistation holds ~47fps, while WiiSX runs at 60fps at that exact point. So yeah, unless you can actually show or point to the difference in jittering, I call that BS.

If he's talking about the jittering that happens on 60FPS NTSC games, it can be observed on Samurai Shodown IV on the shadows, life bars, etc. which are supposed to be a constant 30hz flicker to simulate transparency but due to the jittering it displays incorrectly.

MeXen · Apr 11, 2024

Disorarara said:
He's the author of lightrec.

If he's talking about the jittering that happens on 60FPS NTSC games, it can be observed on Samurai Shodown IV on the shadows, life bars, etc. which are supposed to be a constant 30hz flicker to simulate transparency but due to the jittering it displays incorrectly.

oh geez, sorry i didnt know.

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pcercuei said:
Well I'm asking you to show me the difference in jittering / performance, you send me a 2 hours video. It'd be more useful to have a one-on-one comparison. Or at least a method that I can use to compare the two, where the difference would be obvious.

For instance: "boot Looney Tunes Sheep Raider, note the FPS counter at the language selection screen".
Note that if you actually do that, you'll see that Wiistation holds ~47fps, while WiiSX runs at 60fps at that exact point. So yeah, unless you can actually show or point to the difference in jittering, I call that BS.

No Seriously, i am sorry man, i apologize, i just didn't recognize you at first because i just went with your avatar and misread your name.

pcercuei · May 13, 2024

Disorarara said:
He's the author of lightrec.

If he's talking about the jittering that happens on 60FPS NTSC games, it can be observed on Samurai Shodown IV on the shadows, life bars, etc. which are supposed to be a constant 30hz flicker to simulate transparency but due to the jittering it displays incorrectly.

That's on a Wii configured for 60 Hz?

If the Wii is running at 50 Hz, then vsync will be disabled and it will be a jittering mess, yes.

vbarros22 · May 13, 2024

Hey @emu_kidid
can we get wii u gamepad support in next updates?
thank you so much you and @pcercuei for recent advances in wii emulation

Disorarara · May 14, 2024

pcercuei said:
That's on a Wii configured for 60 Hz?

If the Wii is running at 50 Hz, then vsync will be disabled and it will be a jittering mess, yes.

Yes, NTSC Wii running at 60hz

pcercuei · May 14, 2024

Is there another game that shows this clearly? I can't find Samurai Shodown IV (only on PS2?).

Disorarara · May 14, 2024

pcercuei said:
Is there another game that shows this clearly? I can't find Samurai Shodown IV (only on PS2?).

Bakumatsu Roman is another 2D game that uses strobing effects

Jimgabe · May 15, 2024

Hardware accelerated graphics, like bleemcast, is all I need

Disorarara · May 16, 2024

Jimgabe said:
Hardware accelerated graphics, like bleemcast, is all I need

It's being worked on and the progress is fantastic! Still lots of color and texture bugs but you can see how much better these games look at 480p

Jimgabe · May 17, 2024

Disorarara said:
It's being worked on and the progress is fantastic! Still lots of color and texture bugs but you can see how much better these games look at 480p

where is that version to download?

BuddhaHunterMac · May 17, 2024

Ooooooh a GC version you say

pcercuei · May 20, 2024

Disorarara said:
If he's talking about the jittering that happens on 60FPS NTSC games, it can be observed on Samurai Shodown IV on the shadows, life bars, etc. which are supposed to be a constant 30hz flicker to simulate transparency but due to the jittering it displays incorrectly.

So it's a bit hard to see what's going on - My GameCube output is interlaced, which is then de-interlaced by my HDMI adapter.

What could be happening is that the emulator de-interlaces the frames (basically displaying only "complete" frames at 25/30 fps), and then the output is interlaced again, and (in my case) de-interlaced again.

I'd need to test on a real cathodic TV...

seam1 · May 20, 2024

Disorarara said:
It's being worked on and the progress is fantastic! Still lots of color and texture bugs but you can see how much better these games look at 480p

awesome, have any pics or videos to share?

Amuro-san · May 22, 2024

Force NTSC on RE recorte screen

TheOutGuy_2012 · May 22, 2024

tested by me also, works thought I was playing on a real ps1!

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