@SG854 - The herbivores are an interesting bunch. While the reason they became herbivores is completely different from why MGTOW exist the end result is the same. (social decay agro the end of gender roles and the break down of the family unit and low birth rates.)
@SG854 - Herbivores like MGTOW don't want to be exploited by a society that offers them nothing in return. I think there is where our similarities end. We are different as herbivores are happy being child like or even feminin while MGTOW place a great deal of their philosophy on self improvement.
Herbivores are basically tired of extreme Jap work culture and hate that their fathers barely got to see them. They also say they are tired of women seeing them as success objects, the reverse would be sex objects for women. Similar to MGTOW not wanting to be exploited for money.
Lots of guys are going MGTOW with how divorce works in the U.S.
You have no Constitutional rights in divorce courts. You have no right to lawyer and judges threaten to take your kids away if you don't cooperate.
Im currently reading a book called the boy crisis right now and how males are falling behind in society with how things are set up. Which is linked to higher suicides rates and school shootings.