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<blockquote data-quote="FAST6191" data-source="post: 8528726" data-attributes="member: 32303"><p>I did find a certain amusement during all those videos from war zones this last however long where they were using xbox 360 controllers to pilot things (nominally as they reckoned their people would be more familiar with them but eh).</p><p></p><p>Anyway there has long been something of an anti military bent among hackers and programmers which is fair enough really. The hacker mindset does rather clash with the cannon fodder military one.</p><p></p><p>I can't say I have any strong feelings either way -- if the programmers don't care to see their work used for such things then that is fine, by all means voice an objection and maybe it will be heard. If it is as cutting edge as some seem to reckon then it might be hard to fill their places all that quickly (deep learning, computer vision and communications packages able to handle stuff here all being individually fairly high end skillsets, the merger of all three then being even more rare and hard to come by). At the same time I don't find anything terribly objectionable about using such tech. The programmers are far from without a leg to stand on though -- personal preference counting for a lot here.</p><p>I do find the US' practical veneration of soldiers to be odd (and the history of it even more amusing) and almost unique in the world with any comparable veneration is the domain of despots and tyrants. Around here ex military is usually ex employable (though despite nominal claims otherwise it is commonly so in the US as well if my observations are anything to go by).</p><p>As far as "we are not an empire builder a la Rome" then no, that was found to be too expensive by the time we got deep water ships and gunpowder so instead token leaders were appointed (see the later stages British Empire) and even that was hard to handle so now "leaders friendly to US interests" are "installed" and the red carpet rolled out for their countries. Granted as Europe is probably not going to get its act together any time soon I would rather see the US do it than China or BRICS... though the US is failing spectacularly here where China is doing very very well if their dealings with Africa and South America (plus no small chunk of Europe either) are anything to go by.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FAST6191, post: 8528726, member: 32303"] I did find a certain amusement during all those videos from war zones this last however long where they were using xbox 360 controllers to pilot things (nominally as they reckoned their people would be more familiar with them but eh). Anyway there has long been something of an anti military bent among hackers and programmers which is fair enough really. The hacker mindset does rather clash with the cannon fodder military one. I can't say I have any strong feelings either way -- if the programmers don't care to see their work used for such things then that is fine, by all means voice an objection and maybe it will be heard. If it is as cutting edge as some seem to reckon then it might be hard to fill their places all that quickly (deep learning, computer vision and communications packages able to handle stuff here all being individually fairly high end skillsets, the merger of all three then being even more rare and hard to come by). At the same time I don't find anything terribly objectionable about using such tech. The programmers are far from without a leg to stand on though -- personal preference counting for a lot here. I do find the US' practical veneration of soldiers to be odd (and the history of it even more amusing) and almost unique in the world with any comparable veneration is the domain of despots and tyrants. Around here ex military is usually ex employable (though despite nominal claims otherwise it is commonly so in the US as well if my observations are anything to go by). As far as "we are not an empire builder a la Rome" then no, that was found to be too expensive by the time we got deep water ships and gunpowder so instead token leaders were appointed (see the later stages British Empire) and even that was hard to handle so now "leaders friendly to US interests" are "installed" and the red carpet rolled out for their countries. Granted as Europe is probably not going to get its act together any time soon I would rather see the US do it than China or BRICS... though the US is failing spectacularly here where China is doing very very well if their dealings with Africa and South America (plus no small chunk of Europe either) are anything to go by. [/QUOTE]
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