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<blockquote data-quote="Jhyrachy" data-source="post: 9504722" data-attributes="member: 281882"><p>European here.</p><p>To me it looks a lot (from what we perceive from america) like that a big part of the discussion about rapresentation in western media is made by people trying to one up eachover in who is the most vocal supporter, missing completely the point of the rapresentation in the first place.</p><p></p><p>Is pretty much accepted that sexuality is a spectre and that a lot of people are somewhere in between, even if most will still be heavily leaning on one of the side.</p><p>but what we see is that instead of accepting it as it is there are very vocal people who try to categorize and put labels on every single person, forcing them in premade categories and stereotypes, with really bad results (like the countless tumblr gender)</p><p></p><p>For this reason Kanji can appear as a 'bad' rapresentation, while I think is quiet a good.</p><p>The reality is not black or white, is a shade of gray, and a huge number of teenagers (the demographic of the characters) doubts their own sexuality in multiple ways, and this is well expressed in the game.</p><p></p><p>We do not need a clear cut answer if a character is gay or not, because the sexuality itself of a person should not define it, but that how is lived helps define it.</p><p></p><p>In western media we need less "YES I'M GAY, SUPER GAY, ULTRA GAY, LOOK AT HOW GAY I AM" characters, that are often just token to pander to specific demographic, and more "This is my story, that also happens to include me being gay" kind of characters.</p><p></p><p>Heterosexual characters do not have their heterosexuality as their main point of the personality, I do not see why homosexual ones should have it.</p><p></p><p>Point in case, Kenji.</p><p>We know what he likes, we know how people reacted to it and how he changed in reaction to them. We know his internal troubles and his need to be accepted. We do not need a label that say "yes, he is gay" because it will add anything to the character, would be just pointless pandering.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jhyrachy, post: 9504722, member: 281882"] European here. To me it looks a lot (from what we perceive from america) like that a big part of the discussion about rapresentation in western media is made by people trying to one up eachover in who is the most vocal supporter, missing completely the point of the rapresentation in the first place. Is pretty much accepted that sexuality is a spectre and that a lot of people are somewhere in between, even if most will still be heavily leaning on one of the side. but what we see is that instead of accepting it as it is there are very vocal people who try to categorize and put labels on every single person, forcing them in premade categories and stereotypes, with really bad results (like the countless tumblr gender) For this reason Kanji can appear as a 'bad' rapresentation, while I think is quiet a good. The reality is not black or white, is a shade of gray, and a huge number of teenagers (the demographic of the characters) doubts their own sexuality in multiple ways, and this is well expressed in the game. We do not need a clear cut answer if a character is gay or not, because the sexuality itself of a person should not define it, but that how is lived helps define it. In western media we need less "YES I'M GAY, SUPER GAY, ULTRA GAY, LOOK AT HOW GAY I AM" characters, that are often just token to pander to specific demographic, and more "This is my story, that also happens to include me being gay" kind of characters. Heterosexual characters do not have their heterosexuality as their main point of the personality, I do not see why homosexual ones should have it. Point in case, Kenji. We know what he likes, we know how people reacted to it and how he changed in reaction to them. We know his internal troubles and his need to be accepted. We do not need a label that say "yes, he is gay" because it will add anything to the character, would be just pointless pandering. [/QUOTE]
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