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<blockquote data-quote="FAST6191" data-source="post: 4869333" data-attributes="member: 32303"><p>Piracy is typically a civil infringement when it comes to legal things, online hacking, especially one that provides no great gain other than time saved, is at best a social contract. I am not sure you can conflate the two either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That "awesome feeling" for me would be "urgh now I have 20 hours or pressing A" ahead of me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I gather then you are of the opinion that any action not done within the game would be unjustifiable cheating? Even when the end result is a shortcut around a relatively short time investment (with no skill beyond reading comprehension and basic numeracy)?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Everything in the world allows you to make life easier for yourself, especially if you are willing to invest some knowledge in the matter. The trouble comes in that such methods tend to be copied by all and then either the baseline for easiness/ease of living moves up or (though usually "and then") someone makes an even better method. I reckon the idea of high frequency stock trading provides this in an almost pure example -- faster computers, better algorithms, closer to the exchanges to lessen the speed of light issue, rinse and repeat until the only people that can compete in that world are those willing to invest heavily.</p><p>To this end we are back at "would such things fall foul of the social contract?" which is what this topic seems to effectively be.</p><p></p><p>On Magic cards.</p><p>Many a tournament is run by Wizards of the Coast or with their blessing at some level. They would then tend to have a reason for wanting to go all inside their own <s>wallet</s> systems. See also the idea of a pay to play or pay to win system (Pokemon TCG and YuGiOh TCG being demonstrated to potentially be this on several occasions, magic slightly less so but not all the way). If you want to play in that system then that is fine, it is not a great comparison to this though.</p><p></p><p>Steroids are not the same line of thinking. They almost invariably have serious fairly short term consequences for those taking them.</p><p></p><p>Similarly we also have to decide what is a sport and what is a game. For my money a sport has to have a reaction time component, give or take move selection time limits pokemon does not have this either in the rules or as macro/emergent consequence of the underlying rules. Similarly a reasonable stable would then seem to take me but a very short amount of time to make, if it took an amount of time where time required / time since game's release was close to 1 for the first year or two then yeah generation would be an issue for me. As the time required / time since game's release tended towards zero after about the second week since release and is only getting lower*</p><p></p><p>*others are noting as yet unreleased moves/abilities/things. This is a model used by some would be MMO type games to effectively increase the level cap without otherwise increasing the number actually known as the level cap (see also why I consider Zelda a RPG). As a handful of unreleased moves are unlikely to shake things up too much beyond possibly changing the previously winning combos I am not seeing it.</p><p></p><p>However I am repeating what I said earlier so I will tie it off there for now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FAST6191, post: 4869333, member: 32303"] Piracy is typically a civil infringement when it comes to legal things, online hacking, especially one that provides no great gain other than time saved, is at best a social contract. I am not sure you can conflate the two either. That "awesome feeling" for me would be "urgh now I have 20 hours or pressing A" ahead of me. I gather then you are of the opinion that any action not done within the game would be unjustifiable cheating? Even when the end result is a shortcut around a relatively short time investment (with no skill beyond reading comprehension and basic numeracy)? Everything in the world allows you to make life easier for yourself, especially if you are willing to invest some knowledge in the matter. The trouble comes in that such methods tend to be copied by all and then either the baseline for easiness/ease of living moves up or (though usually "and then") someone makes an even better method. I reckon the idea of high frequency stock trading provides this in an almost pure example -- faster computers, better algorithms, closer to the exchanges to lessen the speed of light issue, rinse and repeat until the only people that can compete in that world are those willing to invest heavily. To this end we are back at "would such things fall foul of the social contract?" which is what this topic seems to effectively be. On Magic cards. Many a tournament is run by Wizards of the Coast or with their blessing at some level. They would then tend to have a reason for wanting to go all inside their own [s]wallet[/s] systems. See also the idea of a pay to play or pay to win system (Pokemon TCG and YuGiOh TCG being demonstrated to potentially be this on several occasions, magic slightly less so but not all the way). If you want to play in that system then that is fine, it is not a great comparison to this though. Steroids are not the same line of thinking. They almost invariably have serious fairly short term consequences for those taking them. Similarly we also have to decide what is a sport and what is a game. For my money a sport has to have a reaction time component, give or take move selection time limits pokemon does not have this either in the rules or as macro/emergent consequence of the underlying rules. Similarly a reasonable stable would then seem to take me but a very short amount of time to make, if it took an amount of time where time required / time since game's release was close to 1 for the first year or two then yeah generation would be an issue for me. As the time required / time since game's release tended towards zero after about the second week since release and is only getting lower* *others are noting as yet unreleased moves/abilities/things. This is a model used by some would be MMO type games to effectively increase the level cap without otherwise increasing the number actually known as the level cap (see also why I consider Zelda a RPG). As a handful of unreleased moves are unlikely to shake things up too much beyond possibly changing the previously winning combos I am not seeing it. However I am repeating what I said earlier so I will tie it off there for now. [/QUOTE]
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