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<blockquote data-quote="CompSciOrBust" data-source="post: 9817970" data-attributes="member: 503655"><p>Apple has roughly 50% of the smartphone market share though and iPhones don't have built in SD Card readers so it means if you don't happen to have a dongle with you you can't update if all you have is a phone and your Switch when you would otherwise be able to connect to a mobile hot spot and update over FTP. Android is less of an issue since most people will have USB C to C cables but most new Android phones don't come with built in SD Card readers, afaik Samsung is the only company including them in every new phone they release. If anyone boots through Fusee and therefore doesn't have Hekate installed updating over USB C isn't an option. That's all just a convenience thing though and not what I meant when I said people new to CFW have issues updating.</p><p></p><p>I think most people have access to a traditional PC but even if you gave them detailed step by step instructions a lot of normal people would still struggle to update Atmosphere. Most people involved with the homebrew scene don't realize it but none of their friends are typical of the average person. People surround themselves with people who have similar interests and as a result you end up with a skewed perspective of what is common knowledge. If you pick some random person off the street there is a good chance they won't know the difference between a file and a folder, good luck trying to get them to extract the Atmosphere folder to the root of the SD Card, most of them won't even know what you mean by "root".</p><p>By having tools on the console to update it it's almost fool proof. They press like 3 buttons and it's done. If they have to manually update there is a lot more steps involved and therefore a lot more steps that something could potentially go wrong. All it takes is one wrong step for Atmosphere to not update correctly.</p><p></p><p>I have a friend who's relatively good with technology. They stream on Twitch, can mod games on PC, but when she tried to install Atmosphere it took them a few hours of failing before they eventually asked me for help. Even after we got AMS set up for them they were struggling to understand that A: once the console is turned off it is in an unhacked state, and B: how to install smash mods. Of course neither of those are the fault of Atmosphere but it just goes to show how even someone who's familiar with using regular technology will have no clue what they're doing when put in to an unfamiliar environment. Hell give any "hardcore PC master race LTT gaming wizard" Linux for the first time and they'll probably fuck up the file system repeatedly. If Atmosphere allowed on device updating these issues could be mitigated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CompSciOrBust, post: 9817970, member: 503655"] Apple has roughly 50% of the smartphone market share though and iPhones don't have built in SD Card readers so it means if you don't happen to have a dongle with you you can't update if all you have is a phone and your Switch when you would otherwise be able to connect to a mobile hot spot and update over FTP. Android is less of an issue since most people will have USB C to C cables but most new Android phones don't come with built in SD Card readers, afaik Samsung is the only company including them in every new phone they release. If anyone boots through Fusee and therefore doesn't have Hekate installed updating over USB C isn't an option. That's all just a convenience thing though and not what I meant when I said people new to CFW have issues updating. I think most people have access to a traditional PC but even if you gave them detailed step by step instructions a lot of normal people would still struggle to update Atmosphere. Most people involved with the homebrew scene don't realize it but none of their friends are typical of the average person. People surround themselves with people who have similar interests and as a result you end up with a skewed perspective of what is common knowledge. If you pick some random person off the street there is a good chance they won't know the difference between a file and a folder, good luck trying to get them to extract the Atmosphere folder to the root of the SD Card, most of them won't even know what you mean by "root". By having tools on the console to update it it's almost fool proof. They press like 3 buttons and it's done. If they have to manually update there is a lot more steps involved and therefore a lot more steps that something could potentially go wrong. All it takes is one wrong step for Atmosphere to not update correctly. I have a friend who's relatively good with technology. They stream on Twitch, can mod games on PC, but when she tried to install Atmosphere it took them a few hours of failing before they eventually asked me for help. Even after we got AMS set up for them they were struggling to understand that A: once the console is turned off it is in an unhacked state, and B: how to install smash mods. Of course neither of those are the fault of Atmosphere but it just goes to show how even someone who's familiar with using regular technology will have no clue what they're doing when put in to an unfamiliar environment. Hell give any "hardcore PC master race LTT gaming wizard" Linux for the first time and they'll probably fuck up the file system repeatedly. If Atmosphere allowed on device updating these issues could be mitigated. [/QUOTE]
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