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<blockquote data-quote="leic7" data-source="post: 4366665" data-attributes="member: 59763"><p>@DiscostewSM Yep.</p><p></p><p></p><p>@[member='Foxi4']</p><p></p><p>Yeah you're so right in that organ donation has nothing to do with pregnancy, so just ignore pregnancy. Can you finally tell us a reason why involuntary organ donation isn't okay now? Just this issue alone. straight forward question. Dunno why you avoided answering it.</p><p></p><p>So, ra.pe victims can have abortions all the way until it becomes a "conscious life", but other women can't have abortions at all even when it's *not* a "conscious life"? Then you can't use the violation of another person's rights as an argument against early abortions, because there's no "another person" yet at this point as it's *not* yet a "conscious life" at the time abortions are already banned for these women. That means you really have no valid argument against these early abortions at all. It's simply a matter of a person's rights vs. a non-person's non-rights.</p><p></p><p></p><p>@[member='Castiel']</p><p></p><p>My apologies for making it sound like I was talking in absolute terms. What I meant was actually subjective certainty, the kind where you feel "I am sure I can definitely do this!" certainty. If I wasn't even sure myself if I could handle it, if I wasn't certain that I could be a good parent to the child... that's way too big of a gamble on something far too valuable, I wouldn't let a child into the world like this. Sorry I didn't make that clearer the first time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="leic7, post: 4366665, member: 59763"] @DiscostewSM Yep. @[member='Foxi4'] Yeah you're so right in that organ donation has nothing to do with pregnancy, so just ignore pregnancy. Can you finally tell us a reason why involuntary organ donation isn't okay now? Just this issue alone. straight forward question. Dunno why you avoided answering it. So, ra.pe victims can have abortions all the way until it becomes a "conscious life", but other women can't have abortions at all even when it's *not* a "conscious life"? Then you can't use the violation of another person's rights as an argument against early abortions, because there's no "another person" yet at this point as it's *not* yet a "conscious life" at the time abortions are already banned for these women. That means you really have no valid argument against these early abortions at all. It's simply a matter of a person's rights vs. a non-person's non-rights. @[member='Castiel'] My apologies for making it sound like I was talking in absolute terms. What I meant was actually subjective certainty, the kind where you feel "I am sure I can definitely do this!" certainty. If I wasn't even sure myself if I could handle it, if I wasn't certain that I could be a good parent to the child... that's way too big of a gamble on something far too valuable, I wouldn't let a child into the world like this. Sorry I didn't make that clearer the first time. [/QUOTE]
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