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<blockquote data-quote="Foxi4" data-source="post: 8246334" data-attributes="member: 203855"><p>You realise that it can be both, right? Native Americans had no concept of land ownership - they still don't. I also never said it was always peaceful, I said that land was either purchased or fought over and the colonisers clearly won - that's conquest. There was no independent state in place before the colonisers established one, there were tribes with territories, which is not quite the same thing.</p><p>I don't live in Poland. This entire rant was based on an imaginary premise. It's quite funny that you criticise the IRS when you live in the Netherlands, a country with a 36.55%-51.95% income tax, a VAT of up to 21% to boot, a literal *wealth tax* at 30% and more. You pay so much for just existing that you're basically a slave, but I'm the one drinking Kool-aid. I can't imagine anything more fair than taxing people for making money with income tax, taxing them *again* if they choose to spend the money post-tax *or* taxing them anyways if they choose to save instead. You're literally getting taxed twice on the same income regardless of what you do with your money.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Foxi4, post: 8246334, member: 203855"] You realise that it can be both, right? Native Americans had no concept of land ownership - they still don't. I also never said it was always peaceful, I said that land was either purchased or fought over and the colonisers clearly won - that's conquest. There was no independent state in place before the colonisers established one, there were tribes with territories, which is not quite the same thing. I don't live in Poland. This entire rant was based on an imaginary premise. It's quite funny that you criticise the IRS when you live in the Netherlands, a country with a 36.55%-51.95% income tax, a VAT of up to 21% to boot, a literal *wealth tax* at 30% and more. You pay so much for just existing that you're basically a slave, but I'm the one drinking Kool-aid. I can't imagine anything more fair than taxing people for making money with income tax, taxing them *again* if they choose to spend the money post-tax *or* taxing them anyways if they choose to save instead. You're literally getting taxed twice on the same income regardless of what you do with your money. [/QUOTE]
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