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<blockquote data-quote="FAST6191" data-source="post: 4208450" data-attributes="member: 32303"><p>koimayeul - science is a process/method* not a body of knowledge, a common and fairly forgiveable mistake but a mistake none the less. Certainly a lot of knowledge about what has gone before/the current state of things is beyond useful to operate science to generate new knowledge in the modern world though.</p><p></p><p>*make an observation, form a hypothesis, fairly test said hypothesis repeatedly and if it turns out to hold you have yourself a theory and if that theory gets enough supporting evidence it becomes a scientific law. This being said said law and indeed said theory could be utterly negated by any one new theory/experiment although when it gets to be called a law most of the time it will not be or will it will be considered a simplistic model in need of improvement when it comes to different scales*.</p><p></p><p>*laws of motion- utterly useless when you get very fast or very small but they still are a useful approximation for a large chunk of existence.</p><p></p><p>Equally if I may use the personification of nature she is a cruel mistress and anything that does not aid the continuation (note not necessarily reproduction) of the species tends to get wiped out very fast yet various non reproductive types of sexuality* have been around for thousands of years and exists elsewhere in nature. Whether this plays into recessive and combination genetics and indeed society as a whole (tools and opposable thumbs were good but speech and society which is not entirely predicated upon breeding (see models that run along the lines of survival is not necessarily those that reproduce but those that are more likely to have grandchildren) was equally useful in the rise of humanity as arguably the dominant life form on the planet) I guess we can debate later.</p><p></p><p>*sex itself is in many ways a waste of what at least was until incredibly recently (in terms of existence of life on earth) very valuable energy which every viable animal again until recently (see brown fat in humans) has done everything it can to conserve and as such it has been posited that the drive for it came about to override the drive to conserve energy.</p><p></p><p>Re others and "wow this thread did not get locked" I for one am not surprised it has stayed open (we have a fairly good lot around here) and although we have had better threads they have usually started from a better point than the extremely ill considered offhand remarks of an ignorant that society has unfortunately given something of a position of power/respect/authority.</p><p></p><p>There are other points I probably would like to address in the thread but others have done a fair line in it and I probably need to be doing something to earn a crust.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FAST6191, post: 4208450, member: 32303"] koimayeul - science is a process/method* not a body of knowledge, a common and fairly forgiveable mistake but a mistake none the less. Certainly a lot of knowledge about what has gone before/the current state of things is beyond useful to operate science to generate new knowledge in the modern world though. *make an observation, form a hypothesis, fairly test said hypothesis repeatedly and if it turns out to hold you have yourself a theory and if that theory gets enough supporting evidence it becomes a scientific law. This being said said law and indeed said theory could be utterly negated by any one new theory/experiment although when it gets to be called a law most of the time it will not be or will it will be considered a simplistic model in need of improvement when it comes to different scales*. *laws of motion- utterly useless when you get very fast or very small but they still are a useful approximation for a large chunk of existence. Equally if I may use the personification of nature she is a cruel mistress and anything that does not aid the continuation (note not necessarily reproduction) of the species tends to get wiped out very fast yet various non reproductive types of sexuality* have been around for thousands of years and exists elsewhere in nature. Whether this plays into recessive and combination genetics and indeed society as a whole (tools and opposable thumbs were good but speech and society which is not entirely predicated upon breeding (see models that run along the lines of survival is not necessarily those that reproduce but those that are more likely to have grandchildren) was equally useful in the rise of humanity as arguably the dominant life form on the planet) I guess we can debate later. *sex itself is in many ways a waste of what at least was until incredibly recently (in terms of existence of life on earth) very valuable energy which every viable animal again until recently (see brown fat in humans) has done everything it can to conserve and as such it has been posited that the drive for it came about to override the drive to conserve energy. Re others and "wow this thread did not get locked" I for one am not surprised it has stayed open (we have a fairly good lot around here) and although we have had better threads they have usually started from a better point than the extremely ill considered offhand remarks of an ignorant that society has unfortunately given something of a position of power/respect/authority. There are other points I probably would like to address in the thread but others have done a fair line in it and I probably need to be doing something to earn a crust. [/QUOTE]
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