wiiu.guide - Disaster in Wii U guides

A small chapter list: Why not to use it, creation of my own guide, why it's a complete disaster.
Also Plaitect & FlimFlam, don't get angry but i think that you should let more informed people to do their job. You're just confusing majority of users with your guide. It's also my views and opinion, i got tired of this wiiu.guide stuff already.
Also this looks like a hate blog on wiiu.guide but tbh, i think most of people can agree that it's just bad. If not, awful.

Everyone knows great, amazing and perfect 3ds.guide, right?
That one guide which was very helpful when you were hacking your 3DS.
Well guess what... it's not the same case for Wii U scene.

Why? Just read it.
"BUT FELEK IT LOOKS GOOD"
No, it's not good. It's awful. A guide should allow people to choose, not to force it down everyone's throat. Also it should explain everything
"BUT PLAITECT MADE IT"
And? If somebody trusted from another scene made it, it doesn't instantly make it good.
Oh and also, it doesn't include NAND Dumping part. If you screwed up your Wii U from using this guide then all i can say is *ahem* Rest In Peace Wii U. You got killed in a dirty manner.

Let's get into that disaster it created:
First it was created as a simple copypasta from 3ds.guide. Obviously included redNAND which wasn't intended for playing games. It was intended for one purpose: Brick protection for developers which develop various homebrew apps for Wii U. To add a strawberry to the cake, redNAND is completely useless when it comes to redNAND backups. [Now, all you need is OTP.bin+MLC.bin and you're pretty much safe from bricks]
Also it made people use CBHC+Mocha CFW->redNAND. You're running CFW inside a CFW from another CFW. This is idiotic!

Sad part? People actually followed it, and believe me, everyone just started to get tired of this wiiu.guide stuff. [Guess what, alot of threads were related to redNAND corrupting itself and people just panicking in Wii U Hacking & Backup loaders section]
Lately it was edited to include sysNAND steps instead of redNAND. Did anything change? No.
People are still coming, because they don't know what the hell they're doing.
This guide doesn't explain anything and in most cases, they brick in process because of how awful it is. If you don't know, don't proceed any further. Just follow other guides.

wiiu.guide is a plague of Wii U's guides. It does it's best it can to actually make it even worse with each edit.
A good guide? Look at Kafluke's Noob Guide, WiiUBrU guide, hell even my guide and then look at your guide again.

Your guide is also a reason why i got tired of this redNAND fiasco and bullshit it included. That's when i decided to just say "No" and create my redNAND-free guide so less people would follow your guide! Also, through making of my redNAND-free guide, i took alot of inspiration from Kafluke's noob guide. [<3] Well, anyways i tried to do my best to make it a good guide.
Believe it or not, i only followed FlimFlam's CBHC section of his guide. Otherwise, i just looked at temp and learned many things, i also did most of things by myself. [Haxchi, Mocha CFW set up etc.] :P

Now whenever somebody mentions "wiiu.guide" in Wii U section, it just kinda gets me angry, i don't blame anyone following it since it's written by famous guy from 3DS scene.

Why wiiu.guide is a complete disaster?
Just get your friend, place him and make him follow that guide. He will probably just scratch his head and then he will just give you a confused look. It doesn't explain anything. It's just "Do what we want you to do then complain" way. Something a guide shouldn't do. How a noob user which never meet with NAND, MLC, SLC, SLCMTTP, OTP and SEEPROM + HBL/CFW/HBAS/DDD/NNU/TCP and many more shortcuts is going to understand ANYTHING?!

Homebrewing your Wii U? Avoid wiiu.guide at all cost. It's not worth it, really. Unless you want to have quintillion of questions while following it, in worst case, you will just get confused. Our guides are 100% better and explain everything. (Well, almost everything.)

Instead of wiiu.guide, ask us and follow our guides. Most of us will be happy to help, no matter what issue you're having. [With Wii U & vWii ofc]

Well, that was a long train of though.
Now question to tempers: What do you think about wiiu.guide?

See ya in another boring blog post.
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Yeah I don't get how the 3DS guide is so good, but the wiiu one is so sketchy...... What happened?
 
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Well... It keeps spreading bullshit. That's what happened basically. :/
 
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Yeah but how did it get so misinformed when in contrast the 3DS guide is well informed and constantly upto date.
 
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@KiiWii, from what I could gather, wiiu.guide was made when the wii u hacking scene had barely anything notable, whereas 3ds.guide was made for arm9loaderhax specifically.
 
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redNAND was only created so devs could fiddle with Wii U's system config without bricking.
There's no way for making it stable, System itself does heavy R/W across all sectors so it's only matter of time if SDCard decides to corrupt it or die with it.
 
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@Ev1l0rd not really. We already had CBHC, Haxchi and all that stuff, even NAND dumping step became a thing after EyeKey released it's NAND Dumper app.

wiiu.guide was just copy & paste from 3ds.guide, it has been rewritten to have sysNAND way but still no useful stuff in that guide, doesn't even explain what CBHC does.
 
Well see, that just me, i don't trust sd cards, had them since 2005 and i hate them, so many bad sd cards, on the other hand, bought psp and memory stick duo, no issues ever, still works over 10 years later. Kinda unused common standard now but it works longer than sd cards ever will. Good job sony. :P

Starting to think proprietary storage devices Like back in the day with console memory cards on gamecube, were the best, sure it was odd shape and only work for games but it never failed me to lose data or corrupt unless player did something dumb. I trust them more than sd cards, even the vita memory card is more trustful, just too expensive. :)
 
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I once bought a faulty 64GB SDCard, oh boy how i was pissed. It costed me 110pln and it didn't even work... Oh well.
 
And sd cards is the reason why i don't use rednand, not on wii anyway. I can't trust it, say i did use it, then i would have to use a 64GB sd card or more, dump the nand (for my system is 32GB not 8GB) then flash it to the sd card, and now if any corruption on it happens, have to do it ALL OVER A-G-A-I-N. O_O

Haxchi is enough, so is web browser on loadiine.ovh with mocha. No need for rednand, as long as i don't make any dumb mistakes, don't bug with the haxchi settings and always test install on usb. :)

I'm not wasting my time using rednand when is time consuming so much. Just let me play game already.
 
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redNAND is for developers anyways so why would you want it?
 
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I don't, my case and point. Is not FOR ME, LOL! :P

Haxchi is for me, that why i use it. I'm not a developer, which is why i also don't use nightly builds of things unless instructed by the person. :grog::grog:
 
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Eh... w/e. I'm not into the Wii U scene (dont even own the thing) so it doesn't pertain to me. Then again, this just proves that everyone needs to wait for things to be verified by actual people with knowledge on the matter before normal users follow it.
 
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I myself use CBHC because i'm lazy and so far, nothing bad is happening.
Well, i still wish i would have my own nice Haxchi icon but i'm too scared that i'm going to overwrite CBHC game by mistake
 
I was gonna ask if someone can maybe add a logo to haxchi like mocha does when it loads. It turns the wii u loading screen to coffee tablet. :P

I dunno if i can do it with haxchi myself but i just want it so i know the difference if i loaded haxchi yet or not.
 
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Haxchi is just a boot screen, that's all.
Unless you want to go full "hacker bonzo" and try to replace some lines so it shows Haxchi logo instead of Wii U menu. Still not worth it since it takes like 2s to boot into sysmenu
 
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Oh i forgot that wiiu.guide doesn't include NAND Dumping part. Another reason not to use it!
 
@KiiWii - as far as I remember from some 3rd-hand quotes, Plailect doesn't have a WiiU and assembled that guide out of pure research, that's why it has things like emunand that sound good on paper but are actually better without!

btw, no guide is good - even if the 3DS one gives you a fairly good result, blindly following steps without understanding what actually happens is a recipe for disaster when you accidentally skip one and then panic not knowing what's happening or what you need to do to fix it!

@Sonic Angel Knight - fun fact, Gamecube cards are vaguely based on MMC (the predecessor of SD), although not directly compatible with commercial cards :)
 
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I followed a mix of guides actually. The infamous Wii U guide was like..."Why would I need a fucking rednand inside Mocha CFW when you can boot cfw without it?"

I didn't brick my wii u, and for that I'm happy I did a lot of research beforehand. But, if I followed the Wii U guide to the letter...I wouldn't be happy with the final result.

Also, the 3DS Guide explains how and why arm9loaderhax works, the Wii U version does not. (All I gathered was that Mocha CFW was sig patching stuff.)
 
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