I'm obsessed with flat earthers

Lately, I've been completely enthralled by the existence of people who genuinely believe the Earth is flat. Like, how are there seriously THIS many people who can't comprehend basic math and observation? It's seriously insane to me and I can't help but obsessively watch videos of these people trying to explain why they believe Earth is flat and I don't know why it's so intriguing. I guess just the scope of how large this group is has been something I simply can't wrap my mind around. Now it's my goal to meet one of these people in real life to disprove their terrible logic with elementary-level education. Which, this desire somewhat makes me think I'm being a jerk, but I'll also be potentially helping someone not look crazy in their future (If I could even convince them, which based on my "research," seems unlikely), so I'm fine with it. I don't know why this is a blog, but I felt weird about my obsession, so I thought I'd share, lol.
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BORTZ
Kinda off topic... kinda. But I always wondered why every single "alien abduction" story is the same lol

"I blacked out, then I awoke on their spaceship. They put things into my body... then I woke up naked in a field."

Carry on, I think flat earther's are insane
 
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TotalInsanity4
@plasturion
*blinks*

I am just... Stunned, as to your complete lack of knowledge about how literally ANYTHING works. Yes, OF COURSE you will be able to see further the higher up you go!
 
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TotalInsanity4
I want you to take a soccer ball and hold it to your nose, with the top at eye level, and tell me if you can look down and see your shoes. Now hold the ball away from you and at waist level and do the same thing
 
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plasturion
oh that's genius, thanks, I tried and I managed to see even a bottom side of a ball from a top. :)
 
Apathetic_Discord
Go and play Megaton Rain. That gives a reasonably suitable, if not slightly trippy, representation of how your scope of vision expands depending on your perspective (And height)
 
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AaronUzumaki
Based on the flight path, the closest 14,000 ft high mountain peaks in Colorado are more like 350-400 miles away. At 350, you'd be able to see a few thousand feet of some peaks and at 400 they'd be a few thousand feet below the curvature. When you account things like atmospheric refraction and how infrared collects light, you'd exactly be able to see just a small bit of the peaks of Colorado's highest close peaks.
 
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Apathetic_Discord
Think of it like this, you are essentially looking through a natural-made Periscope, in which the light, atmosphere and weather, and as pointed out by Aaron, the infrared itself all create a periscope effect, extending your view by reflecting it in your perception.
Another example, go stick your legs in the bath, or any other similar body of water and notice how even if your legs are long, looking at them submerged gives the impression that they are dwarfish.
 
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plasturion
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Are you telling about this two points? because we can see the moment on video and that's clearly 500 miles away. So anything what is smaller than 16km high shouldn't be visible but we can see clearly much more than only peak.
 
TotalInsanity4
Again, as stated before, your calculator assumes that light travels in a straight line, which it does not necessarily once you get into the atmosphere
 
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plasturion
refraction is a minor factor in fact, here's another one calculator
https://www.metabunk.org/curve/
Distance = 500 Miles (2640000 Feet), View Height = 5.87 Miles (31000 Feet) Radius = 3959 Miles (20903520 Feet)

Results ignoring refraction
Horizon = 215.69 Miles (1138849.96 Feet)
Bulge = 7.9 Miles (41718.82 Feet)
Drop = 31.7 Miles (167378.88 Feet)
Hidden= 10.2 Miles (53831.93 Feet)
Horizon Dip = 3.118 Degrees, (0.0544 Radians)

With Standard Refraction 7/6*r, radius = 4618.83 Miles (24387440 Feet)
Refracted Horizon = 232.96 Miles (1230033.45 Feet)
Refracted Drop= 27.14 Miles (143314.32 Feet)
Refracted Hidden= 7.71 Miles (40724.8 Feet)
Refracted Dip = 2.887 Degrees, (0.0504 Radians)
 
TotalInsanity4
Something I didn't think about earlier but uh... Sea levels anyone? Unless you're on water or perfectly "flat" land, there's no single part of of Earth that perfectly mirrors the curve of the atmosphere. So what's most likely happening there is that they're flying over an area that's below sea level and seeing the mountains that are (obviously) significantly higher
 
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AaronUzumaki
@plasturion I think you've misinterpreted the video. The obvious mountain you see is an Arizona mountain. The Colorado peaks in the video are small, white triangles slightly visible behind the Arizona mountain.
 
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leon315
wut? u guys still here?? c'mon, you should get a life and this argument just makes non-sense...
 

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