[Question] AMD or nVIDIA Graphics Card?

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Anyway, the title is pretty self explanatory.

I’m looking for a good GPU. The two GPUs (chipsets) I’m in between are these ones here:

RX Vega 64
vs.
RTX 2070

BUT HOLD UP,
The RTX 2070 would be the obvious choice on paper.
-I’m not going to be mining or anything, just gaming.
-Nearly identical preformance for nearly $100 less.
-Ray tracing stuff to be utilized in the future
-The list goes on.

I was only looking at RTX 2070 models for a while and found that the best one was an MSI model for $530.
(there are cheaper ones but they wear out and preform much worse (like windforce)).

HERES THE ISSUE;
The whole point of getting better GPUs is to have a smooth performance, right?
Well that’s why G-Sync exists. It prevents screen tearing and stutters without adding any input lag (like V-sync in games do).
G-sync is meant for use with high end nVidia cards (like the 2070). G-Sync does not work with AMD GPUs, they use Freesync

The issue here is that G-Sync Monitors cost a massive amount of money, while FreeSync monitors are way less expensive.

To put it in perspective, a 1080p 144hz curved monitor that has FreeSync costs $199, while a G-Sync monitor with the same 1080p 144hz spec costs $350.
It’s fucking awful.
It’s the reason why I started looking into AMDs GPUs in the first place. I want to dodge nVidia’s greedy G-Sync tax while still getting the preformance I want.

Thus, we got a Vega 64.

Here’s the thing; Vega 64 cards are really hard to shop for.
Here’s what i mean by that,

The RTX 2070 ranges in price from $475 to about $580. This is the manufacturers build different models of the card with the same chipset.
-Gigabyte’s cheaply made Windforce model is $475
-MSI’s enthusiast grade model is $580

This makes it pretty simple to pick your model in the 2070s lineup of cards.

VEGA 64 IS NOT LIKE THIS.
For these, the range in price goes from $450 - $850. What the fuck.
All the benchmarks look relatively balanced between the $450 model and the $850 model, so, why such dramatic price difference?

If I’m not mistaken, it’s purely because of GPU mining.
And the more expensive cards can mine better than the much cheaper ones.
That’s fine and all, but it makes it hard to find a Vega 64 that has good gaming preformance, lasts a long time, and ISNT meant for mining.

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SO HERE'S MY QUESTION TO YOU;

Is there a Vega 64 that I can get for $550 or under that is meant PURELY for gaming?
Or should I just get a RTX 2070 and pay $150 more as the G-Sync Tax (fucking nVidia greed).

If there is a Vega 64 that suits my needs but is, like, $600 then that’s fine too, as long as I can dodge that Monitor tax without over-paying then I am happy.

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[P.S.]: to make my blogs more cutesy I wanna make a song recommendation at the end of them all.
The song for today is:
“The One” - by LiMP BiZkiT.

[P.P.S.]: Ryzen is awesome, Intel can go piss on a wire.

[P.P.P.S.]: here’s my build as of now:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jkyYFt

[P.P.P.P.S.]: Shoutout to Dionicio

[P.P.P.P.P.S.]: okay im done lol

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Vulkan has potential too, but it's not wholly implemented. I'd rather have that API used as a standard than something so menial like raytracing. Yes, it looks good.. But I'm playing a game, not watching a movie.

On a side note, Quake 2 with Raytracing is fun to look at. Won't lie.
 
Currently and from personal experience, nVidia cards are better for very old or older PC games as well as for modern demanding emulators. Im not saying that AMD is bad when it comes to GPUs but they have some issues.......
 
@deSSy2724 I'm hoping they kill this slump with their next gen. I'd love to go full AMD.
 
AMD's OpenGL performance issues affect ALL of their GPUs. It's a problem in the drivers, not the hardware. And it won't be fixed (including in any of their upcoming cards) unless AMD decides to actually program in fixes to their drivers. This doesn't seem likely to occur either, not much incentive to do so when it's mostly just a few emulators that rely on OpenGL nowadays.

Again the ideal situation at this point in time is that emulators continue to move towards Vulkan. As I said, Yuzu has a Vulkan API in active development. RPCS3 already has it. Hopefully Cemu adds Vulkan support in the near future too.
 
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Yeah, AMD is definitely the budget choice. With a budget like $500 he can do much better. They do have pretty good bang for your buck on the low end though.
 
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I owned many ATI-AMD cards, actually more than I had owned nVidia cards, so, no bias from me..... im just speaking from personal experience that AMD have/had some issues (more than nVIdia) but I had issues with GTX 460 as well (graphics freeze for 400/500/600 series in 2D), the topic was really hot in the official geforce forums.
 
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The 4x series card are a giant meme in the GPU world. Inconsistent performance, hot running cards, etc. They've gotten better. However, as someone who has primarily been Nvidia since 2012? Nvidia is becoming complacent and I'd want AMD to get some fire under their ass and knock em off their pedestal.
 
Jdbye, AMD is pretty imipressive at the high-end level now, too. The Radeon VII is a powerhouse of a card that will go toe-to-toe with the RTX 2080
 
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Yes, they are getting better lately but nVidia still doesnt sleep...... and I like that AMD is more open source friendly and they provided us with many free stuff, they provide their technology/tools which dont block nVidia cards (I mean its not hardcoded) the same way nvidia blocks AMD GPUs. nVidia is somehow more greedy, they want to commercialise everything they touch and I dont like it. Imagine if Volvo commercialized their "seat belt" invention.... really bad scenario.
 
Yes, open source is one of the big reasons I support AMD. They opened up the Vulkan (formerly Mantle) API as well as FreeSync, and now they have moved to open source OpenGL, OpenCL, and Vulkan drivers. nVidia, on the other hand, goes with their proprietary G-sync, proprietary drivers, proprietary compute API, etc.. I definitely plan to make my next system AMD/AMD. Would be wonderful to not have to use any binary blob drivers on my linux box.
 
I, too, would love some serious competition from AMD. For better or worse, nvidia is king on the high end. Sure, Radeon VII is a thing, but reviews for it weren't all that great.
Low end though, AMD has some good contenders there.
 
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You can't really put the freesync vs v-sync on nvidia, because they can use free-sync and g-sync now. I'd much rather stick to my 1070.
 
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@grossaffe That may be true, but that card isn't out yet so I will reserve my judgement for when it is and I can compare benchmark numbers.
 
@RivenMain
Wait really? I thought FreeSync was exclusive to AMD GPUs...
If the RTX 2070 can use FreeSync perfectly well and prevents screen tearing without input lag like G-Sync is for, then the RTX 2070s the way to go, right?
 
@Paolosworld It used to be.
Wikipedia said:
VESA announced Adaptive-Sync as an ingredient component of the DisplayPort 1.2a specification; FreeSync is a hardware–software solution that uses DisplayPort Adaptive-Sync protocols to enable smooth, tearing-free and low-latency gameplay.[5] FreeSync has also been implemented over HDMI.[6]
That all changed recently when Nvidia decided to add Adaptive Sync support in a driver update. Which as it turns out (as you can see above) is what FreeSync is based on. But there are also monitors that don't claim to be FreeSync that support adaptive sync, although often poorly and don't give as good of an experience as a FreeSync/G-Sync certified monitors. Since adaptive sync is a standard in DP 1.2a it's in a lot more than just FreeSync monitors.
 
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@Paolosworld I can't speak whether or not you should it's really ur choice. The big difference from 2070's to their older generation is their ray tracing capability. which is awesome! but the games supporting is still slim. So older cards still can out value it. For the amd side, I'm not as fluent with amd. It's what Sony relies on. I don't keep as much tabs on their side, but they are great Machines. for gaming emulators i think favor nvidia to amd. pc games are focused for nvidia cards because nvidia wallet lol. It doesn't mean you'll have issues though. I wouldn't recommend the 2070 because the market of the old cards can offer the same value. amd haven't been top dogs i know for performance, but you don't need the best for 1080p gaming. I'd rather say the 10 series as laptops run desktop grade (if your into that) but allow that value to use free sync anything lower than the 10 series can't use free sync. so if you got a 980m your sol.

The 10 are just as capable as the 20, if you aren't going to use ray tracing then it's the same as the 10 series. And the money you save goes to a nicer screen. that you don't need g-sync. You still need to update ur nvidia card though it doesn't work out the box.
 
@RivenMain
GTX 1080s go for like $600 bones now.
Maybe I can find a used one but the rtx series value just seems better, especially now that it’s going down.
 
@Paolosworld You really can't beat the value for money of used GTX 1080/1080 Tis right now. An 1080 Ti should be roughly equivalent to a 2080 in performance.
 
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