REDDIT SUCKS! (Essay)

Hello, my edgy little tempers!

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It's been a long time since I've been active on this site because I've been spending most of my time on the website Reddit.
Needless to say, I'm back now.

And I've realized something in the meantime; I cannot fucking stand that website.
Allow me to explain my immense hatred for the online entity known as Reddit.

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I will tackle 3 big topics.

1. REDDIT STRUCTURE
2. REDDIT COMMUNITY
3. REDDIT CULTURE

Here we go

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REDDIT STRUCTURE
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Before I talk about Reddit's toxic community I'd first like to acknowledge how exactly it functions. This includes the people that run the website and control the back-end of it.

I'm sure everyone's familiar with how the site works, but for the few who don't know, I'll provide some info about it.

Basically, there are a bunch of different subreddits, which are basically different topics of discussion. In each of these little "subs" (short for subreddits), a handful of posts are made every day, hour, and even minute depending on how popular the sub is. Unlike a traditional forum-based site, such as this one, so many posts are made in so little time that just showing the latest posts doesn't appeal to the communities. To fix this, the site is built around popularity using upvotes (which are basically likes).
The problem is that the vast majority of people don't see your post immediately and thus can't upvote it so everyone can see it. The only people that get to see posts before the masses do are those who sort their feed of posts by "new" instead of the default "hot". Thus those few people who sort by new and happen to see your post will pretty much decide it's fate (whether the masses see it or nobody does).

Allow me to put two and two together,
To get people to SEE your post, it must be upvoted by EVERY ONE of those first ~100 people who initially see it.

This means that anything remotely controversial will not end up being upvoted by all of those first ~100 and thus will get censored.

As a result, most users only see the most inoffensive, watered-down, and widely-accepted content in the subreddit, which obviously does a very poor job of accurately representing a community.

One of the most Ironically broken subreddits on the website is "r/UnpopularOpinion".
The reason why it's broken is because the actual unpopular opinions are downvoted because they're controversial, while the POPULAR opinions are upvoted and thus are the ones that show up in the regular feed. Probably the most typical "unpopular" post that shows up is something along the lines of "I think Trump should be impeached!". People think that this opinion is unpopular, but the very fact that it has tons of upvotes already shows that the opinion isn't remotely unpopular.

Reddit's algorithm is specifically designed to only allow content that is harmless or pandering, which ultimately contributes to the toxicity of it's community.

Another Reddit feature that does this sort of thing is the "Award" system.
Basically, Reddit allows you to give them money in exchange for a virtual stack of silver or gold medals that you can give to posts you like.

LET ME REPEAT THAT.
You need to PAY the WEBSITE (not the people you award!) money just to give people glorified upvotes.

This is such a fucking stupid and lazy way that the management of the website makes it's money that it fucking embarrasses me. They've created a system that encourages people to become so desperate for public approval that they resort to giving the system money so that they can feel good about awarding a post.
Because Reddit encourages the production of bland content the only posts that get these awards are the ones seen by the masses. As I explained earlier, this tends to be some of the most inoffensive and pandering content imaginable.

This algorithm influences you to seek out approval over individuality. And by eliminating everyone that doesn't fit their own subjective standards, they create a soulless army of yes-men. The few who show their true personality are made outcasts and are buried by the masses.

The structure of Reddit is the soul cause of why the community has grown to be so toxic over the years.

This ties into my next section,

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REDDIT COMMUNITY
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As if the structure wasn't broken enough, it's made worse by the community that it helped create.

Most of the community has been shaped to lose all of it's individuality so that they could fit into the algorithm better. The result is an army of spineless and pathetic attention-whores that ever existed.
And trust me, when it comes to attention-whoring, I'm pretty experienced (lol).

Let me provide you with what the average Reddit post looks like;

"Lawyer here, you don't actually know if I'm a lawyer or not but how can you prove me wrong? lol here's some terrible law advice. Thanks for the gold kind stranger uwu"
- 28.6k upvotes

Obviously I'm being sarcastic here, but I feel as if my sarcasm isn't that far away from the actual reality of the posts on Reddit. Some posts are such blatant attempts at getting upvotes that it's fucking hilarious.
After Stan Lee (Marvel) died, everyone's Reddit feeds were BOMBARDED with these upvote-whores. Every subreddit from r/dankmemes all the way to fucking r/cooking was full of these "Rip Stan Lee!" posts and they all were upvoted and awarded like crazy.

Also, for all the females out there reading this:
If you want to get likes without having to have any creativity at all, REDDIT IS YOUR PLACE!
Any sort of picture or post that makes it clear that the OP (Original poster) is a girl will get upvoted. No exceptions.
The community of Reddit is so fucking dominantly full of males that they immediately lose their shit when they see a selfie of a girl. Some of the laziest posts I've ever seen are women and girls posing in sexualized ways on SFW subreddits and they get THOUSANDS of upvotes because of the white-knighting community.

For a community that prides itself on not being "Normie", it appeals to the most basic people imaginable.
This arrogant Anti-Normie stigma is so widespread that it practically is normie itself.

Reddit is so convinced that their community is for counter-culture people and intellectuals, when in fact the website is made up of the most basic, institutionalized, inoffensive, bland, spineless, little pricks imaginable. Fucking Vile.

I would normally leave it at that, but I would be cutting Reddit too much slack if I didn't acknowledge the very obvious political bias that Reddit's community carries.

Let me be clear, I don't care what your political beliefs are no matter how extreme they might be.
Reddit though, does care. Reddit cares a lot.

If you look at r/News, r/UnpopularOpinion, or r/Politics, almost 90% of all the posts are something negative about Donald Trump. If you say something even remotely in defense of him (or really any sort of right wing value), you will get witch-hunted.

That's right, Redditors will get so triggered over your opinions that they will go onto your profile and downvote every post that you've made, regardless of what you said in those posts. This is a real thing that actually happens. I'm dead fucking serious.

I once said in a post that I thought that tube-tops (the tight clothing that teenage girls wear) were trashy and I got FUCKING CRUCIFIED for that. Everyone was calling me an "Neckbeard" and saying that I was probably some grouchy Incel in my mom's basement that hated women everywhere. After a couple hours I started noticing that posts and comments that I made in the past were being downvoted too. All because I dared to say I thought modern clothing was trashy.

These people that called me an "Incel" just made me laugh, because their whole argument doesn't even make sense.
An "Incel" is someone who is desperate for female attention so much that they begin to sacrifice their own self-respect just to get some female acceptance. I was just saying that tube-tops looked trashy, while they were freaking out and saying that I was somehow objectifying women by talking about a piece of clothing. In no way does talking about a piece of fucking clothing translate into objectifying women.
To take it further, the people who were making this accusation were acting more like Incels than I was. They immediately opted to be offended on behalf of women and acted like they were defending them from me. Ugh.

If you go against the normie's opinion, you will get downvoted. Anything conservative at all will be downvoted. You will be called every name in the book, from Incel to Boomer, by the community of lusty and arrogant slobs known as the Reddit community.

Just for the hell of it, let me list of Reddit's top 5 worst subreddits and provide a brief insight as to why they suck.

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THE TOP 5 WORST SUBREDDITS

5. r/Pics
A bunch of Upvote-whores. You got selfies from 14 year old girls that get upvoted by horny 30 year old men, you got photoshoped pictures of Donald Trumps head onto a dead body, and you got pictures of Stan Lee with a blatantly pandering caption to get upvotes. All of which are normie attempts at getting upvoted and getting their own 10 minutes of fame. Eww. This is a very broad topic but it seems like the actual content of the posts boils down to your run-of-the-mill Anti-Trump cartoon, 14 year old e-thot, or cute animal photo. It's so blatantly normie that it makes Instagram look like a fucking paradise.

4. r/Conservative
This is a perfectly fine subreddit that is ruined by invaders. It's hard to find a post on this subreddit that has over an 80% upvote rate because people are so fucking dedicated to fencing out other opinions that they go to this subreddit and downvote every post they see. The same is true on r/Democrats but on a much smaller scale. People with opposing ideas are so hot-headed that they will go out of their way to downvote everyone with a slightly different opinion regardless of where they post just so that they cam get their 10 minutes of fame and while others don't. It's such an immature thing to do and it has completely ruined this subreddit.

3. r/Atheism
This is another perfectly fine concept that has been ruined by the shitty community. Instead of actually having discussions about the idea, the subreddit only serves to bash Christians. Some of the most disrespectful and trashy shit I've ever seen has been on it's front page. On r/Christianity, you will get in trouble for blatantly harassing atheists, but on r/Atheism, you will be CONGRATULATED for harassing Christians! It's so fucking broken and it perfectly shows the huge political/social bias that Reddit has.

2. r/UnpopularOpinion
I already talked about how this subreddit is broken. Popular opinions are upvoted, while actual unpopular ones are downvoted. It's ironically broken in such a way that shows the circle-jerking and hollow community that Reddit possesses. Your only allowed to be counter-culture if you are accepted by everyone, which defeats the whole fucking point of counter-culture as a whole!

1. r/AgainstHateSubreddits
THIS IS THE SINGLE WORST ONLINE COMMUNITY TO EVER EXIST, PERIOD.
This subreddit is a bunch of people that flag posts made by radicals from different subreddits in order to get the subreddit BANNED. This is how r/Incels and r/The_Donald was removed. The irony is that every sub has radicals, it's just a matter of which of these posts gets to the front page of r/AgainstHateSubreddits and it will get removed. Because only the popular opinion gets to the front page, the subreddits that will get banned are only unpopular right-wing subreddits, even though they have just as much radicals as the left-wing ones. This is MOB RULE AT IT'S FINEST. Dear idiots, censorship doesn't mean that your "winning", it means the fucking opposite. This subreddit is a perfect example of a pure majority rule. It is the opposite of social anarchy, it's, like, the thought police of the internet. Absolutely fucking vile.
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If I could sum up Reddit's userbase with one word it would be: "Intolerant".
They always want everyone that doesn't conform to their ideas to be censored and are even given the power to do just that.

Also, endless circle-jerk. Ugh.

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REDDIT CULTURE
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To say that Reddit is full of edgy people would be an insult to edginess as a whole.
Edgy people have individuality and Redditors are the polar opposite of that.

Very few people seem to understand that being a "normie" has nothing to do with social media. In fact, being a normie has nothing to do with anything that you consume. What defines someone isn't what they input but it's what they output.
Using Reddit doesn't make you any better than the people who use facebook, instagram, or even fucking 4chan.

This sort of pale thinking has sort of leaked into modern society.
I know how stupid this sounds, but the Reddit phenomenon really illustrates a problem with the culture of my generation. Individuality has been overpowered by the human urge to fit-in. Everyone thinks and acts the exact same without even realizing it. Everyone's convinced that they're not like the others when in fact that level of thinking is just as widespread as Reddit has come to be.

Let me quote Syndrome, from The Incredibles;
"When everyone's super, no one will be."
Now replace the word "super" with "different", and you single-handedly identified the key concept as to why Reddit culture is trash culture.

Reddit culture or, better yet, digital culture has leaked it's way into roughly 94% of teenage minds here in modern civilization and it is shown in the stuff we consume. Reduced to nothing but a glorified popularity contest that resets every ten minutes until a new batch of posts and videos fills our feed.

Like I said at the beginning, I'm not super active on Reddit anymore.

Although I found that Reddit was a shithole, I am still glad that I gave it a chance. It helped me realize a lot of flaws with myself. I used to be such a huge attention-seeker but after Reddit, I've toned it down a lot. I still go on rants and shit, but this time it's on my own damn terms. No more stupid drama and attention-whoring anymore for me.
That is a lesson that I've learned from Reddit.

Honestly the only time I really use social media nowadays is just to talk about computer hardware or the latest homebrew shit, and for that I have Hardfourm, GBATemp, Darkumbra, and WebOasis. Those sites are filled with much more mature people than the ones on Reddit for sure.
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TL;DR; Reddit is horrible but it taught me an important lesson in the end.

Also, the best subreddit is r/Skiddoism

Lol. Shoutout to NancyDS.

Bye.
Thanks for reading!
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I never really liked to admit this, but I don't understand how reddit works and I don't care to learn. It's a problem because it's popularity is so huge.
 
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I mean, just don't browse the popular subs and a lot of the problems go away. I didn't have any issues browsing r/3dshacks, since that was what most of my early reddit consisted of. A lot of the bigger subs definitely have some problems, but the smaller/niche groups usually seemed okay.

(I can't really comment on the 'edginess' because I didn't see much of that either way.)
 
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The up/down vote system is classic behavioral conditioning and you really can't escape it. Even in the smaller subs the perception of saying the wrong thing and losing points causes the group to polarize. Content frequently gets regurgitate because it's "safe" and as a result reddit is full of reposts.
 
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@x65943
3 paragraphs wouldn't be enough to vent out all my frustration, but yeah.
The blog is really damn long, I'll keep 'em shorter in the future.
 
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@VinsCool

Your comment has little contribution to this thread.

@OP

I appreciate this essay and agree with most points. Reddit can be a cancer.
 
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I don't need a TL; DR or a short blog. I think what you posted is perfect. It's great to see someone who can identify what is actually going on around them, but the sad part is, how do I state this, "Welcome to People". Reddit is just a larger version of Middle School. I use the site to gain traffic for various causes. I don't even pay attention to the imaginary karma bullshit, but if I did I'd say that I get downvoted a lot. I also don't ignore posts that have been downvoted. I have no problem taking time to read an entire thread, which includes the down voted replies. I sorta like to have a complete picture when making decisions. Keep writing and don't let the short attention span morons get to you!
 
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I was gonna be all like "lol tldr: reddit is a cesspool lol" but then I actually read it. Read it, Reddit, ha ha. And it's a fairly decent little essay about why reddit is a garbage haven. Younger people laugh at Facebook and mock the dumb meme posts older people make, but Reddit is the cringey Millenial equivalent. Either the subs are too strictly moderated (r/games only allows very specific posts from very specific news sites, and you're not allowed to make your own title, it must be a pre-existing title) or are full of angsty 18 year olds who don't have anything better to do than rage about a given first world problem, or are just circlejerks of popular memes/topics. I still browse it from time to time, because the concept of the website at least will occasionally bring relevant information to your interests, but posting there is such a waste of time.
 
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I find this to be a useful guide nowadays:

"How to Form an Opinion:
1. Ask why you need an opinion.
2. Ask why you are entitled to an opinion.
3. Form no opinion."
--Aaron Haspel

It often feels that we have reached a point where someone can encounter someone else online who probably agrees with him on 98% of the issues and still be compelled to stomp that someone else into the ground, apparently because if you're not stomping on someone else then that can only mean you are part of the problem and will be stomped upon in turn.

So, just don't post, I say. Enjoy the popular content, even if it is bland and uncontroversial - or don't.
 
Reddit does kind of suck at its base level, but if you want to like it, you probably need to dig deeper than politics and top subreddits.

Also, politics fucking suck regardless of where you go. They're all little hellholes, no matter how they lean. Honestly, I think that's your real issue here. Reddit as a whole definitely does lean liberal, and it seems like you lean more conservative. Avoid politics and avoid the shit you don't like on it, and you might find some enjoyable stuff.

As for the "reddit is normies trying hard to seem like anti-normies" I can't disagree. The site was a lot better back pre-mobile app days, when it was more forum-esque and more niche, leading to less generic "normie" style users. Again, though, if you try and dig deep and find more niche subreddits, you might find more interesting stuff with a more palatable userbase.

And I mean, there's nothing stopping you from just finding a better forum.
4chan? :creep:
 
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Although 4chan is undeniably a shit show, I will always appreciate it.
Every post is dead real. Even though people lie about their lives and stuff, it still seems much less fake than Reddit does.

It's just beautiful that, despite being anonymous, 4chan manages to have more individuality than Reddit ever could.

Also I agree with you on the political stuff, the only traffic I'll give Reddit is when I'm reading up on hardware or tech support. Best to stay away from the mainstream.
 
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Another suggestion: r/unpopularopinions's opinions would be much more unpopular if you sorted by controversial.
 
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It sounds like you're miffed off with people that hold opposing views to you. In life you will find this on a daily basis (unless you live in a bubble). I suggest you need to mentally 'man up' & come to the conclusion yourself that people won't always see things the way you do. If Reddit annoys you - don't use it (not rocket science).
 
Rule of thumb: the smaller/more focused a sub is, the better it's community usually is. Also piracy subs are like actually pretty decent ngl
 
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"Although 4chan is undeniably a shit show, I will always appreciate it.
Every post is dead real, nobody wears a mask or pretends to be something they're not."

What website have you been going on? 4chan is chock full of people pretending to be something they are not.

Now 8chan on the other hand...
 
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Good article, but you focus too much on reddit as a place to voice opinions/views.
Reddit is an awesome repository of homelab info, programming groups, scene groups, pirates, lockpickers and so much more.

you seem to have categorised it more as a worldwide forum.. which can be just as brutal as that sounds if you think about it.
 
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