Unpopular opinion: I don’t like Christmas at all.

For me it is the annual festival of abundance and waste. And a symbol of hypocrisy that has long lost it’s meaning.


Once more I’m facing the problem finding balance between a long “essay” (which sadly just gets tl;dr nowadays) and a too short text (which looks extremely polemic and does not provide any arguments). I’m prepared for the worst storm of protest and/or full ignorance. I had to hear and read “Christmas, Christmas, Christmas…” for the last few weeks without a break. Now I will express my opposite view.

It is a christian festival that also many non-Christians celebrate. Even convinced atheists celebrate it. The economy likes it obviously. Many people go nuts weeks before and start buying presents. In the last week before the 25th December it is almost impossible to buy foodstuff without getting a “Merry Christmas!” from the till girl. I told her: “I’m not a Christian.” She answered: “Where’s the problem? This has nothing to do with being a Christian.” Okay, the German words “Fröhliche Weihnachten!” do not directly contain it like in the English “Merry Christmas!” but… this opinion is strange. I’m done with the church (too much protection for child abusing priests). And I chose to be an agnostic for various reasons – which goes to much off-topic here.

I do not celebrate religious festivals. People, just be tolerant: Leave me alone with your religious things (that oddly enough have been stripped off their religious context and are now mostly obeisance for the God of Consume, Waste and Overeating) and don’t get on my nerves. I will not try to stop anybody. Everybody who likes it: Fine… but leave me alone.

I hear people moaning: “It is sooo stressful… Buying all the presents. Preparing the feast. So much to do! 25th celebrating at home. 26th going to the grandparents. So much to do! So much to do! Hustle and bustle.” They buy loads of stuff they don’t need. They have stress. They have family quarrels. They don’t enjoy it. They eat until they feel nauseated. Some drink more alcohol than they should in addition to that. All the whining about the stress, about the upset stomach… the enforced happiness and harmony when meeting relatives that do not care to even call or text the rest of the year.

And if I dare to ask: "Why don't you just stop celebrating Christmas if it is so stressful?" I get looked at as if I had just sad: "Why don't you just stop breathing?"
You have to participate on Christmas. That is a natural law. Like gravitation. Two masses attract each other. You have to celebrate Christmas!
Every single person I ask answers with: "We do not do much, but…"

I did not buy any presents. I did not get any and this is good. If I want to show appreciation this neither needs material presents nor a special day – no matter if it is some universal holiday or a person’s special day (birthday). On the contrary: This is what I call hypocritical. People who I appreciate deserve this any time – and if I feel it fits showing this appreciation with some present: Then I do this without asking my calendar for permission. If somebody remembers my existence only on "special days" I quickly hang up the phone or show them the way out of my house. Those social conventions don't mean anything to me.
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Dude, forget about christmas, don't even give it this much importance. You don't have to bow to it in fear of offending others, if it doesn't click, quite frankly; fuck it.
If you ever need anyone to turn to if you somehow do get blargarded left and right no matter where you go (I call it the christ control unit of justice), I'm just around the corner... Just ask for the cunning snake.
 
That's a statement.:)

And all your Points are absolutely understandable.
It is good to know,when someone do not like this Merry Christmas/Frohe Weihnachten Thing...and it is ok too of course.:)

Thank you for your Point of View,Sinchen.:)
 
Depends though. Sometimes we escape truth in the guise of "that's like, your opinion maaan....", which sometimes in a way, is kinda cowardly not to confront what you are practicising. Cause, if it is indeed so true, why be afraid? Truth will prove itself, that is truth, anything else is just different forms of illusion, some more real than others.
 
It's a good excuse to take time off and visit family

That's how I look at any major holiday anymore
 
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Jiehfeng said:
Dude, forget about christmas, don't even give it this much importance. You don't have to bow to it in fear of offending others, if it doesn't click, quite frankly; fuck it.
If you ever need anyone to turn to if you somehow do get blargarded left and right no matter where you go (I call it the christ control unit of justice), I'm just around the corner... Just ask for the cunning snake.
Christmas has zero importance for me. If somebody bugs me in real life… I can be very direct. But I'm not living under a rock. Avoiding the city: Yes. As much as possible.
  • Going to the grocery store is a must sometimes.
  • Television? Nope. Never.
  • All in all the GBAtemp forum does so much good for me I do not want to avoid it for a month – regardless of "What did you buy on Black Friday?", "Christmas", "Tempmas" and "Events" and hats on avatars and whatnot.
  • Annoying Christmas banners on internet sites? ublock + uMatrix → peace.



x65943 said:
It's a good excuse to take time off and visit family

That's how I look at any major holiday anymore
Yes, I get this. Family all has time on that days. Meeting and having fun without stress would be nice (and if everybody manages to do it on another day: as good as on some "official" holiday).


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When I was kid it looked like this:
  • All relatives meet at my grandma’s house
  • Tense situation and forced “happiness” →No real happiness and fun at all
  • Expensive and complex meal that tasted bad
  • All the relatives talking. Talking, talking, talking nonstop. They spoke so much and said… nothing. They said nothing but they said it often and loud.
  • Quarreling
  • PRESENTS!!!!

@alexander1970 We discussed this already in PM.
 
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I am not even religious either, and I think the commercialization of Christmas is a damn shame as well (I don't buy presents nor would I want anyone to get me anything, unless they really wanted to); That being said, it does not hurt me to participate in the festivities & It's a generally fun time, but I also keep in the forefront of my mind the original meaning behind Christmas (Yule/Jesus's Birthday). Unfortunately, my elderly dog passed away this Christmas, so that will inevitably add another more personal attachment to Christmas from now on =(.
 
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I forgot to mention, I totally resonate with you about the calendar influencing behavior with Holidays, lol. One Thanksgiving I made Lasagna instead of a Turkey, just because I felt like it, no paper is going to tell me what to do \m/. I don't like authority/being told what to do in general tho, so that might help to explain my reasoning, lol.
 
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But if Christmas supplanted a pagan festival (see Saturnalia, or if we are going to do the Germanic thing then Yule/Yuletide) that was all about gluttony and gift giving?
 
FAST6191 said:
But if Christmas supplanted a pagan festival (see Saturnalia, or if we are going to do the Germanic thing then Yule/Yuletide) that was all about gluttony and gift giving?
If one single question contains so many words I have to look up in order understand it (showing me quite plainly how limited my knowledge of the English language is)… this must be a FAST6191 comment. Magnificent as always.

I will not do history studies tonight. But I got it: There were festivals before Christmas roughly at the same point of the year. And… Does this mean Christmas has nothing to do with Christianity? Or does it mean Christmas is originally about eating and drinking too much as well as and buying loads of presents?
 
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Anyone who works retail are gonna hate the holidays for sure, but overtime pay and using your vacation with Christmas Eve/Day are the true presents.
 
It's not as unpopular of an opinion as you might think, lots of people think the same way. I'm kind of indifferent to it these days, I like the celebration and food, the get togethers with family, but don't really care that much about the rest of it. Anything that gets the family together to have a good time is fine in my book though.
 
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KleinesSinchen said:
There were festivals before Christmas roughly at the same point of the year. And… Does this mean Christmas has nothing to do with Christianity? Or does it mean Christmas is originally about eating and drinking too much as well as and buying loads of presents?

There are winter festivals everywhere there is winter, usually they are to welcome in the spring or ward off the depression that comes with winter/stop people living under the same roof from killing each other.
There were festivals at the same point of year, and it is generally held that Christmas was changed to match them. At the same time the original meanings, actions and such of them continued to be performed (such is the case of many far flung places away from Rome/centres of Christian power where pagan festivals and traditions carried on, not just Christmas and Easter -- see Ostara for the Easter thing (name is held as no coincidence either) and I think there is a particularly amusing passage written by a visiting monk/priest/whatever when they went to Scotland and found the natives dancing around a giant penis as a fertility ritual, despite nominally being Christian, never mind what goes for Ireland, Scandinavia and further flung locations).
To that end if the original actions and meaning carried on, just adopting a slightly different name, then one might well say one need not put the Christ back in Christmas as he was never particularly involved in the first place.

MasterJ360 said:
Anyone who works retail are gonna hate the holidays for sure, but overtime pay and using your vacation with Christmas Eve/Day are the true presents.
I must admit I did find myself in a supermarket on the 23rd of December. The staff did not look like they were having a pleasant time, and I was not especially having one either.
 
I've never celebrated Christmas (seeing as how I was brought up Muslim) so I've never had any strong feelings either way, I feel indifferent about all celebrations really outside of Eid, though I think Muslims, in general, are a little bit more strongly attached to the history of an event rather than turning it into a festival of excess as you described about Christianity.
For me a religious celebration is important because of it's ability to connect many people together and create a strong community. Maybe it's just me though :unsure:
 
As someone who grew up poor, and didn't really have Christmas, outside of the presents my grandparents would send, I really, really, like Christmas now. I know it's a charade of a holiday, with the original point and meaning completely divorced from the modern retail-idolizing concept. But. I love it anyway. I love setting up a tree, I love the sent of pine, I like the colorful decorations, and how my uncle visits and pretends to be santa, and the heavily marketed snowy landscapes in movies and TV, though I will never experience them in Texas, always seem so fun to idealize. How the weather goes from its constant 104F to a livable 75F for a sparse few weeks of the year in December. It's just a nice time. It makes me genuinely happy.

But, I get it. Everyone has their different take, and emotional perspective. People should be free to enjoy the time of year, whether you view it as special, or as just another day of the year, in peace. You can't just tell Christmas and society to piss off, but I suppose the best you can do is let your friends and loved ones know how you feel, so that they might not needlessly barrage you with Merry Christmases and other such things during the season.
 
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Also, to many non Christians (myself included), there really isn't much Christian about Christmas. That might be what its origins are, but it has turned into something so far removed from anything religious and the only thing reminding us that it is in fact supposed to be a Christian holiday are the carols. Which many of us are sick and tired of anyway. But the decoration, eating, celebration and gift giving, that's something anyone can enjoy. Or hate, whatever floats your boat. So I don't think you need to be religious to celebrate Christmas, as long as you like celebrating it.
 
I understand your points. They are good. Most people who celebrate Christmas are not celebrating Christ or a Mass. A lot of people do a lot of really dumb things. Every year, I have to watch the movie "It's a Wonderful Life" and read the short story "The Gift of the Magi".
For me, Christmas is a time for preparation for the coming of Christ. It's a time to be humble, appreciative, and hopeful.
 
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