GPU upgrade time.

Received an RTX 2080 Super today, let's upgrade that old GTX 970.

Specifically, the EVGA RTX 2080 Super XC Gaming, the only non-reference RTX 2080 Super I found that was dual slot and would actually fit.
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Also got myself a nice wireless mouse, I'm going to need it since I'm playing on the TV and the only wireless mouse I have is an old Logitech laptop mouse not designed for gaming.
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Fits perfectly with just enough room for the cabling on the right side.
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And with the case back on. Man, it sure would be nice if there wasn't so much cable.
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It looks like the intake fan is lit up, but that's actually my motherboard shining on it. Haven't received the addressable RGB LED strip yet.
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And finally some benchmarks comparing my old GTX 970 to the new RTX 2080 Super. The difference is night and day.
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It actually maxed out the VR score... Guess I should get a nice VR headset. Not quite ready for future VR though.

It's not the most powerful RTX 2080 Super model given the smaller heatsink compared to all of the others, but there's still some headroom for overclocking. Pretty happy with the performance so far in the little testing I have done in games. I was considering returning it for a RTX 2070 Super which is supposed to have better bang for the buck, but I think I might need all of this performance, even if it's only 12% more FPS than the RTX 2070 Super and costs 33% more. Still a much better value than the 2080 Ti.

I'm also considering getting some CableMod cables. They're not exactly cheap, but even when I did my best job to bunch up the wires so they wouldn't get in the way, they're still making the window bulge out a little on the motherboard side. There's just too much cable and nowhere good to put it.
I did get a 20% off code with either the mobo or the PSU, so why not make use of it.
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Silent_Gunner
@MicmasH_W I'd get something that'd last you longer than the 970, especially with the PS5 and the Xbox SeX around the corner...
 
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ThoD
I get you may not like having a big case or something, but high-spec on a micro case will slowly mess up high-end components, GPU running at 77°C is actually VERY high, most cards shouldn't get past 45°C, maybe 55°C, after half an hour at full load if there's proper air flow, but with the micro case and all the cables, there's no room for air at all, meaning it will get hotter and hotter. Looks good, but high temps lower component life and also make the PC run slower while wasting more electricity (higher temps turn into lower efficiency for Wattage).
 
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PityOnU
@ThoD Not sure where you live (maybe the artic?), but 45-55C at load is not realistic on modern cards. 77C here pretty much matches reference in an open case.

These things use 200W+, right? If not 300W+.
 
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Joe88
@thod not sure where you are getting 45C-55C from, any high end card will easily push 70C-85C on load and thats fine, these cards can take alot even up 110C before problems start but thermal throttling will set in way before that.
Now I don't know if those temps are normal for this card because I can't find reviews for it, they do seem a little high though, custom aib cards should be lower than stock.
 
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Silent_Gunner
@Joe88 I actually wonder about that: I was trying to go and do another runthrough with the RE2 Remake now that I have my PC back and am not stuck with the peasantry that was playing it on the PS4, and one thing that I'm worried about is that my PC fans are literally screaming, (OK, not literally, but you get my point), and I heard some pretty scary noises that sound like more than just my PC fans revving up while playing it the last time I tried it out.

Mind you, the only other demanding game that I'd say I have installed on the regular on my PC is maybe MK11, and that usually only gets to the mid-80's in terms of temperature on my video card. The sound that scares me kind of sounds like the sound a depressured door makes in sci-fi movies when it opens, if that's helpful.
 
The Real Jdbye
@ThoD My old GPU in my old high air flow case got just as hot if not hotter, and was noisier as well. GPUs are designed to run hotter than CPUs, I'm not worried. I'm more worried about the CPU temps, but the CPU is not so expensive to upgrade/replace later on if needed.

@Psionic Roshambo That's a RTX 2080 Ti? The performance difference seems about right for that.

@Joe88 Yeah, internally it's very similar to the reference design. It's more or less the same size, the only thing that's improved are the fans, from what I can tell. I prefer the design over the reference card though.

I found a review of the EVGA RTX 2080 Super Black which should be using the same cooler, in their tests it got to 78 C under load, but it does not say which benchmark/tool they used for that part. Pretty close to my results though, within 5% of my highest recorded temperature in tests (before bumping up the power and temperature target to max)
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/evga-geforce-rtx-2080-super-black/31.html
 
Psionic Roshambo
Yeah it's a EVGA overclocked 2080 Ti with one of those triple slot coolers. Doing that test was enlightening.... Kind of thought the 2700X would bottleneck it a bit but not really.

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-GAMING-Graphics-11G-P4-2383-KR/dp/B07GHW9VJZ
 
IncredulousP
Nice card op, I'm a little jealous :P. Speaking of temperatures, my OC 2070 only hits about 63-64 under max load. The card has 3 fans of it's own. I have a atx case and 2 cheap case fans with a squeeky cpu fan. The case is wide for a separate HD containment area behind the motherboard. I haven't seen anything heat up beyond the 60s, frankly I would be uncomfortable if any of my components were hitting that temp. Reduced lifetime, and all. 110 seems ridiculous, yeah it might technically work but better have that rma ready.
 
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Der_Blockbuster
Damn, I think this compact build is hella Sexy!

I'm kinda suprised that my RTX 2080 scored 4683 points.
Allthough it has a triple cooler design which may affect performance, did yours throttle?
I was thinking on upgrading to a Super but I guess NVIDIA didn't change too much ?
 
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The Real Jdbye
4683 in which benchmark, @Der_Blockbuster?
No, it didn't throttle. However, it doesn't come with a factory OC like most aftermarket cards do. I've applied a light +62 OC as well as +900 memory, but that was after running all the benchmarks.
I can rerun the benchmark if you tell me which one, to see if my scores will match yours. I'm guessing it will get close, but not quite, because there is only so much I can do with higher power target and overclocking. A card with a better cooler is going to stay cooler, and therefore will automatically boost higher, just like a CPU would.
Also, I could definitely push the overclock further. I just ran the automatic overclocking tool via EVGA Precision X1 (but it's a built in feature of all RTX cards and works the same regardless of which software you use) and it gave me +62, then I overclocked the memory manually afterwards, but I still went a bit light on the memory OC as I did not want to be spending hours dialing in the maximum possible overclock.
At some point I will put in the time to test for the maximum stable OC (while keeping temperatures in check, of course) and see where that gets me, but right now I just wanted a quick OC that would work to see if I would get any performance improvement.
 
The Real Jdbye
Did you mean FurMark?
If so, I got much closer with the OC. I think +62 is close to what you might expect from a factory OC, maybe slightly less, so the new score is about what I'd expect.
I ran the same test with +1050 and +85 and actually saw slightly lower scores. It looks like it's running into power target limits where it's hitting the maximum 116% power target and has nowhere to go. That's another thing that is different between cards, an aftermarket card with a bigger cooler can have a much higher maximum power target in vBIOS than stock.
I'm sure there's a modded vBIOS around I could install if I wanted higher power targets to really push the card to the max, but I don't think it's worth it for only a couple extra % of performance.
Keep in mind this is using the 2160p preset.
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Der_Blockbuster
I was refering to your unigine Valley Benchmark, same settings. I only have a 1080p monitor so I can't compare your Furmark result. I'm curious what you'd get on unigine Valley with Oc. Cheers!
 
Der_Blockbuster
So I did a bit of Overclocking and managed a 4762 Score in Unigine Heaven.
Min : 44,7
Max: 413,9
FPS: 190.0
Let's see if this OC is stable, gaming will show :D
Stable enough for furmark and Unigine atleast.
 
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Der_Blockbuster
Superposition:
Unigine Benchmark 1080p Extreme: 7671
4K Optimized, 10250.
It's kinda shocking to see that a 2080 ti only does 10fps more on AVG mine was 77 FPS AVG on 4k Optimised.
The pricing is really off.
 
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The Real Jdbye
Yeah, the 2080 Ti is overpriced as hell, as top end GPUs always are. The 2080 Super is a bit overpriced too, 1/3 higher price for only 12-13% more performance on average compared to a 2070 Super. I considered returning it for a 2070 Super, but I feel like a 2070 Super might be just a tad insufficient for good 4K across all my games. ARK is struggling to get 40 FPS in 4K currently and that's with a couple of the settings turned down. I need every single one of those frames. Granted that's the only game I've tried so far that doesn't get 60 FPS at 4K max settings, other than Zelda BotW in Cemu which gets around 50-60 depending on where I am but can dip down below 45 on occasion. That's probably more of a CPU limitation though and the game still runs way better than it does on real hardware so I'm happy with that. Also I intend to invest in VR at some point and want a good experience there too.

Rerunning Unigine Heaven right now, let's see.
 
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The Real Jdbye
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Edit: Just realized it only sees half the video memory. Is this a limitation of it being a 32 bit application? Does that limitation even apply for graphics memory in 32 bit applications?
 
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Der_Blockbuster
Yeah noticed that too, that's probably why if you really want to compare maybe use something like superposition,
But Heaven is still useful to check how stable your oc runs!
 
Minox
I too plan on upgrading my 970 this year, but I'm waiting for 3xxx series before I actually pull the trigger.
 
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