So I failed over two job interviews - some notes

I am going to lose my job next month due to covid, although I have known it since May, I just started hunting jobs in July. After applied so many data analyst/BI positions, I had two interviews in the past 3 weeks

The first one was a mobile gaming company, I passed the SQL test. They were actually recruiting for a data scientist position, which is actually not exactly the position I am looking for.Although I am comfortable with data wrangling and visualization (using R mostly), my knowledge on statistical modelling for machine learning is pretty much is a basic. I thought I aced the interview when I didn't. The recruiter told me, I was not suitable for the job as I have no real life experience of implementing machine learning model into production and experience with cloud servers (aws/azure/gcp). I kinda bummed, but I think it's fair enough.

The second was an ecommerce company. My friend referred me for this one as she's still working at that company. The first round test is like the WORST I ever had. 30 minutes GMAT test and 30 minutes SQL test. I already thought I botched the test, but somehow I was qualified for the second round interview. After getting interviewed with the BI lead, I think I could answer the questions well, and yet I didn't - as I got a rejection email, stating that they wouldn't continue processing my application without any explanation which skills I lacked for that position. I gave a honest feedback to their feedback form - it was worst interview process I ever had. I don't think I want to apply at that company anymore. It was a good experience though. My friend has warned me that the company's corporate culture is not that good and she is actually looking to move, but it's kinda hard to find a company that pays as good as this company, so she bears it with it.

First time I lost a job, it took me 7 months to find a new one, and I think it was traumatizing me so much to the point that I became rather over-prepared for this situation. I have raked my saving in the past 5 years to ensure I have 6 months of salary. It's quite amazing to think that I am going to be unemployed 3 times in a row. But I guess that's the reality we must face. The sooner you experienced being laid off, the sooner you will realize you need to be prepared for the next cycle. I was humbled when I lost my job for the first time. You see, I just finished my master's degree and I thought I was "different", I thought a master's degree would give me some leverage in the job market. No it isn't. I became a data analyst by accident, and it was because I pushed myself to learn data science, not because of my master's degree. I am still optimistic my chance to find a new job is better as data science is still a hot market.

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I am going to be unemployed 3 times in a row. But I guess that's the reality we must face"
To be unemployed is not a right. Instead, "Everyone has the right to work, to free choice of employment, to just and favourable conditions of work and to protection against unemployment" (Universal Declaration of Human Rights, United Nations General Assembly, 23.1).
If this economic system is against emploiment and against workers' rights, this is a bad economic system.
 
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Would have been a surprise if you would get a new job on the first try oO
My first one took my about 80 tries then I only got it because I had family in that company.

Second one was super lucky as my boss had a similar way behind him as I did so he kinda liked mem still went to a lot of places

third and fourth job similar ... went to a Company that lends their employees to other companies, hardly got any money but it helped to get into my current job.


My GF also even though she has her Master Degree took about half a year to find a Job as everyone was either "your degree is to high for us" or "you don't have the master degree in the exact one thing we need"
 
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Yeah it sucks because if you're overqualified they're worried you're gonna leave once you find a more suitable position.
 
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Sorry to hear about your troubles here, friend.

Tech is in kind of a weird place right now, especially regarding the area that you seem to be focused on (data analytics). What used to be more about database design, telemetry, visualization, etc. has completely shifted focus in the past 5 years or so into the domain of machine learning. And studying/working in machine learning requires a completely different set of skills and interests than your standard CS degree. I would actually argue that ML is actually much more about mathematical fundamentals than it is about programming. ML scientists actually (as a general rule) tend to have fairly poor programming skills - hence very high level languages such as Python being the most popular in the field.

I found myself in a similar situation to you when I was looking for jobs recently - my skillset and interests are much more focused on low-level programming (such as C/C++), and positions that actually leverage these more "traditional" programming skills seem few and far between. But I suppose that's natural as it is at this point a well-established field whereas ML is just really starting to take off, meaning there are a lot of new positions opening in the latter.

My suggestion to you would be to identify what it is that you are strongest/most interested in, and look at what positions are available using that skillset. From that point, try to determine what experience is most desirable for employers when looking to fill those positions, as well as how that knowledge is tested for during the interview process. At that point, take some time to discover resources for training/practice and really take time to prepare yourself. Preparing for interviews is a fulltime job in and of itself. Once you feel you are prepared, just shotgun your resume out to as many companies as you can. While having a Master's degree has zero value during the interview itself, allow me to assure you that it will at least get you called in for the interview to occur. That is the actual value of the degree.

I did all of the above, and the entire process from start to finish took me about six months. I had to learn and memorize the API for an entirely new language, go on a few throwaway/practice interviews, and spend countless hours reviewing algorithms and completing practice problems (for my skillset, LeetCode was a hugely valuable resource), and finally do proper applications and grueling interviews with at least about a dozen companies. It doesn't happen fast and if you do it right you will feel as if you are pushing yourself past your breaking point (aka "giving 110%"), but at the end of the day that's what it takes and it does pay off.

Best of luck!
 
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@Mythical Mostly worried you'll ask for more money, I guess. The cheaper the education, the cheaper they pay.
 
Oh, and I forgot to add, if you really want to get competitive pay then you need to time things so you get multiple offers all at the same time. That way you can actually have leverage during the salary negotiation (hilariously, simultaneously the shortest and most impactful part of the entire process w.r.t. your QoL). Without competing offers, prepare to get lowballed. Make sure to actually tell them you have competing offers, as well.
 
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sorry for getting political on your blog but i probably slammed shut 90% of the doors for work 2 weeks ago by posting "I refuse to work for a trump supporter" on facebook I rather be jobbless then in jail/sued by punching my boss in the face for blabbing about how great trump is doing, hint he's doing nothing great
 
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@chrisrlink that's fair enough. I also never apply to any companies that are related to tobacco industry or if they are affiliated with religion such as Syaria-packaged fintech.
 
You might have to work in an unrelated field for now. Sucks working in jobs you don't care about. My workplace is still closed down.
 

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