I have new pronouns

noice! and they can be used in singular and plural form and is like that not just in english either

Q: Where did bob go? A: They went to the store

Thanks for clearing it up but... WHY IS IT SO COMPLICATED?!?

@HylianBran consider this - and a pre-emptive "I don't mean to be reductive in any way and I hope that it doesn't come across like that" - imagine you're talking about a business, let's say Google. Google is not really a genderable entity, not a he or she, and you wouldn't refer to them as that - exactly how I did there. Google is a very large company, and recently they've announce a new feature being added to a few of their projects. Just like that.

Now, not to say that a person who wishes to be referred to with non-gendered pronouns should be considered a business or anything like that, of course. But in the same vein, if for whatever reasons, someone doesn't want to or isn't comfortable being referred to as he or she, doesn't identify with a typical gender binary, then if you're talking about a person and aren't going to call them "Joe Shmoe", their name, then the next appropriate pronouns to use are to refer to them as... well, them. That's what they're comfortable with, and that's about all there is to it.

The explanation, when needed, is much more complicated and verbose (IMO) than the implications of it. At the end of the day, everyone's allowed what they're comfortable with. Obviously you are going to make mistakes sometimes, sometimes you see a guy that looks like a girl or vise versa and you may make a mistake and refer to them with the wrong pronouns. Honest mistakes happen, but when (the royal) you know what their preferred pronouns are, and instead repeatedly use the wrong pronouns on purpose - well, that just makes (the royal) you an asshole.

Spoken from the perspective of a cis guy who's always used the same pronouns, so I apologize if I'm off base in any way.

@Sicklyboy So I'd be an asshole if I, in a theoretical timeline that is surely never going to cross with ours, said the incorrect pronoun that wasn't very well defined to begin with? In all seriousness, why aren't these well established by this point? Actually, I take that back. Everyone else seems to already be informed on this, so why aren't I? I apologise for wasting all of your time (speaking to "the everyone"), but I am very, VERY frustrated by this. My sister lives in a "coo-coo for coco puffs Facility" and she seems to get it, so why can't I? I am destined to be an eternal asshole? Huuuhhhhh???

oh I guess I am

@HylianBran They/them has been concretely established as gender-neutral/gender-agnostic for centuries.


Spoken from the perspective of a person that doesn't really give a shit about what one single word I've to use when referring to someone

So I'd be an asshole if I, in a theoretical timeline that is surely never going to cross with ours, said the incorrect pronoun that wasn't very well defined to begin with?

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Depends. If the person in question said "Hi please use these words to refer to me" and you saw that and went "nah" and intentionally did not, you would absolutely be seen as an asshole and probably upset the person quite a bit.
Not understanding is fine, asking in order to understand is fine. Making mistakes is human. But intentionally denying someone their simple request for a word to be used is, to put it bluntly, being an asshole.

i just want to add two things:
1-"they" has been a individual pronoun since a lot of time ago. among its users, shakespeare for example
2- this image


"they" is as valid as "she"

Yo new pronouns dropped.

@Jokey_Carrot
And they are dope as fuck!

I mean if we're gonna get into language evolution every word was new at some point

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

I personally go by they/she for anyone curious

@Seliph do you prefer she or they?

@Scott_pilgrim they since I put it before she and primarily identify as non-binary but I honestly don't mind either way!

Hey you guys....

guys is gender neutral i think right

^ it depends on who you ask but generally I'd say yeah. I usually say "hey y'all" instead of "hey guys" since it's a less gendered term (and fun to say!) but I really don't think it matters unless someone explicitly tells you that it makes them feel uncomfortable in which case it's always important to be respectful of that in regards to that person.

Dude is also generally a safe bet.

Edit: Wait. I'm dumb.