The problem with most of these answers is that they still pretty much tell how long a person has been in the homebrew scene. Myself? I've been the homebrew scene this many years.
You ever try soaper powder/qauludes? I did once and like a dumbass drank beer on top of taking, I woke up laying in my backyard in the pouring rain, it knocked me out. I have not seen it around in many many years.