Flea Market Scammer

Saturday - flea market day in fairground. With patience and a lot of luck this is sometimes the opportunity to get awkward things for little money.
My success was limited today. Not a total failure. Got the Blu-Ray disc of Amadeus and a PS1 game with two CDs (Platinum series). Means: I now have three PS1 discs suitable for targeted destruction once I have a sufficient light source and a possibility to use a smartphone instead of my eyes on the microscope.

This alone isn't worth a blog entry. What made me angry beyond believe was a guy with a bunch of Nintendo games. Wii. Wii U. Some consoles. All looking okay. Not worth looking at. Such a seller normally makes the exact same prices that are common on the internet (minus the warranty professional sellers have to give even on used stuff).


What caught my eye was the complete collection of Pokémon generation 1 and 2. The six cartridges looked... from several meters away... just wrong somehow. Something very fishy. 🐟🐟🐟
So I went near and grabbed Pokémon Crystal. Having it in my hands I could directly say it was an inferior bootleg by holding the opaque (fake!) cartridge against the bright sunlight. A PCB inside roughly filling a third of the cart (fake!). Wrong screw (fake!). Bad printing (fake!). No battery (fake!). No clock crystal (fake!). So many indications screaming "Fake!". The others were the same.

I asked him for the price for the Pokémon games playing naive and innocent. He had an slimy grin and answered "20 Euros a piece."
A disgusting way of talking, impossible to describe. Really condescending. I couldn't believe it! He wanted to sell this garbage for a high price. Copyright infringement (commercial piracy) and he attempts to sell it as legit (fraud). So I asked him "20 Euros? Although they are obviously fake?"
"Yes of course." he said -- with overwhelming smugness (after a single second of astonishment, that I was able to identify these obvious fakes as fakes).

For a moment I thought about informing the flea market host (or even the police). But I doubt any of them would have cared. So this guy could continue offering bootlegs between legit stuff and might eventually have found somebody who he could rip off successfully.

This man ruined the experience today. I must find a way to fight against such criminals.

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Sure it's a bad thing, but of all places to you took this forum to complain about bootlegs and piracy?
Depending on where you we're they might've cared more about it than you anticipated.
 
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Sure it's a bad thing, but of all places to you took this forum to complain about bootlegs and piracy?
Depending on where you we're they might've cared more about it than you anticipated.
I didn't "complain" on the forum. I posted a blog entry – where personal thoughts (including so-called complaints) normally can go without problems.
Worse than the commercial piracy of decades old games is the fraud such a person commits. Somebody might buy these things without noticing and run into trouble, when the bootlegs turn out to be unstable or garbage quality. Many of them are simply scrap electronics from the beginning.

If I have a good idea how to stop such a person, I will next time.
 
I only agree with bootlegs if it is specifically stated they are bootlegs, and if the price is cheap.

I've considered buying an entire set of fake GBA pokemon games for $10 CAD, just because I didn't couldn't afford an expensive GBA flashcart or overpriced legit copies. The seller made sure to say they were fake and of much poorer quality, and I thought that was much better seeing as they weren't trying to pass them off as legit, and they didn't overcharge for them.

My only issue is when people overcharge and/or say it's "real". Bootlegs are cool as long as they are kept far away from real stuff.
 
This can't be your first time finding dodgy games down the market? I thought it was generally well known that markets are where you go to find dodgy copies of games -- remember seeing Amiga stuff back when (I dare say most Amiga stuff was not original), and when PS1 mod chips took off (along with CD burners which also meant PC games) it was off to the races.
 
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I've considered buying an entire set of fake GBA pokemon games for $10 CAD, just because I didn't couldn't afford an expensive GBA flashcart or overpriced legit copies.
You are a bit late for GBA Pokémon. A few years ago I got the full set (legit with packaging and manuals) pretty cheap. Now? Forget it. Greedy b*stards!


This can't be your first time finding dodgy games down the market? I thought it was generally well known that markets are where you go to find dodgy copies of games -- remember seeing Amiga stuff back when (I dare say most Amiga stuff was not original), and when PS1 mod chips took off (along with CD burners which also meant PC games) it was off to the races.
I've had my fair share of such things. Also bought an R4 clone on the flea market which required formatting the µSD because there was a shitload of shovelware illegally preinstalled (games, where the publisher should pay people for even consider pirating them).

Let's put it that way. If it was GBA bootlegs, offered as bootlegs for a good price, I might have considered buying one or two because of this. Playing around with such a thing would be fun. I already own at least one legit copy of all Pokémon main games up to Sun/Moon (Missing Ultra Sun/Moon), so no interest in another legit cart.

As for the PS1 bootlegs – the very dark color of the original CDs made everybody identify illegal copies in a split second. Yes, I know there are black CD-R (in fact some of them are no more than 3 meters away from me right now). Yes, I know there now are some legit CDs without the dark color. When PS1 copies went wild, those a..holes selling them didn't even bother to A) choose uncommon dark CD-R and B) print their discs. They didn't even try (I never bought such a shit, but I know from classmates, that such sellers didn't bother to verify burning success and usability either). It was piracy, yes, but they didn't actively try to fool people into believing it was not. And they sold their discs for roughly double or triple the price of the blanks (downloading PS1 CDs yourself with 56K modem wasn't attractive which means they found their customers)

A few years ago somebody tried to sell me a PS2 for 150€. I asked him why it was so expensive. He told me "many games". He had zero games… but a bag full of low quality DVD-R which he called backups (while being unable to show me either the originals or any sales receipts for games he might have lost the originals).
Nobody will sell PS2 bootlegs unnoticed either, since the legit discs show the PlayStation logo when holding them against light. They are copy protected not only for the consoles, but also for the human eye (in favor of customers).
 
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I didn't "complain" on the forum. I posted a blog entry – where personal thoughts (including so-called complaints) normally can go without problems.
Worse than the commercial piracy of decades old games is the fraud such a person commits. Somebody might buy these things without noticing and run into trouble, when the bootlegs turn out to be unstable or garbage quality. Many of them are simply scrap electronics from the beginning.

If I have a good idea how to stop such a person, I will next time.
I didm't mean it in a harsh way, just for this is a forum open on hacking consoles and explaining how to legally backup your games and modify these games.

Around they don't sell those things much on a market nor online, for the police is caring a lot, as they should.

I am against selling these fraud games, but i am not so sure about if anyone ever gets in trouble having or using those... except they can be shitty bootlegs.

Someone sold my nephew this pokemon red version in turkey, luckaly he didn't understand it.

But around here selling those are seldom on public places, and you can really get in trouble trying to sell such bootlegs to the wrong person.
 
I am very sorry to read about your "Experience",my dear Sinchen.....
Flea Market was for my Wife and me a very nice Place to sell but also find "some Things" for a very nice Price and to talk
with those People about that Things.

A few Years ago this stopped suddenly because of a "big Change" in the Behavior of the Flea Market Customers and Sellers.
And for today - I am really no longer in the Mood to "discuss" about every Cent with People who obviously want to buy cheap from me and sell it later at a higher Price...and also for such Cases like Sinchen described.....no,thanks.

We all know,Life is getting more and more expensive...but for the "Spirit,the Idea & the Soul" of Flea Market´s - is not ok to do the same...
 
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I am very sorry to read about your "Experience",my dear Sinchen.....
Flea Market was for my Wife and me a very nice Place to sell but also find "some Things" for a very nice Price and to talk
with those People about that Things.

A few Years ago this stopped suddenly because of a "big Change" in the Behavior of the Flea Market Customers and Sellers.
And for today - I am really no longer in the Mood to "discuss" about every Cent with People who obviously want to buy cheap from me and sell it later at a higher Price...and also for such Cases like Sinchen described.....no,thanks.

We all know,Life is getting more and more expensive...but for the "Spirit,the Idea & the Soul" of Flea Market´s - is not ok to do the same...
That is generally called the ebay effect (when every grandma knows to use the ubiquitous phone and look up everything) and rise of reselling.

Can't say I haven't noticed it and it is a lucky day that I find games (usually by being there as things get put out or buried in some box, instead I usually go for books and tools) but there are still enough out there in the ones I go to which make it worthwhile.
 
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I've seen many bootlegs at flea markets lately. Picked up a few Xbox and PS1 bootlegs, because y'know, they're extremely rare to come across nowadays.
 
Ah, I see you've come across some bootleg Xbox and PS1 games at flea markets! It can be quite exciting to stumble upon rare finds like these. While they may not be official releases, some people appreciate bootlegs for their uniqueness and the nostalgia they bring. Just keep in mind that the quality and compatibility of these games can vary greatly, so it's always a good idea to do some research or try them out before making a purchase. Enjoy exploring your collection and discovering those hidden gems!
 

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