A personal require

To be honest, your English is probably better than 80% of people on the internet.

[quote name='Dangy' post='3795371' date='Jul 25 2011, 10:19 PM']To be honest, your English is probably better than 80% of people on the internet.[/quote]

Indeed.

It's funny that the people who apologize for speaking English poorly are usually far from the worst at it. I guess humility is a trait of well-read people.

[quote name='pigonthetree' post='3795369' date='Jul 25 2011, 10:18 PM']Someone told me that you never know how lucky you are until you try. so I am trying, I want to improve my english,hahaa. can you help me? [/quote]
ok! abcdefghi...
just kidding lol but your English is better than most of the internet. i guess you want help in speaking it more than typing, because your typing fine my friend. (I bet grammar is bad when u do this, but try going to Google Translate and typing something in your language and translating it to English then post it here for results. we can tell you if your English is better if you just type, or if its better if you use google translate lol)

Your English in the first post is actually quite good. I have "friends" (more so people I just know) on Facebook who's mother-tongue is English and it is absolutely atrocious.

ur english isnt so bad i men dis guy i kno frum uni culd barly spel anyting rite how da hel did eh git in2 a uni in da 1st place

Your English is fine, OP. Only thing non-native speakers should really learn, for internet usage, is basic grammar and punctuation.

Thanks so much for the message! actually, you are right, I can read, type, understand, but I can not speak, so I want to improve my oral english. Any methods?

Someone told me that you never know how lucky you are until you try.

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I'd like to point out that logically, this quote makes 0 sense.

Still, I agree. You type better then half the worlds native English speakers.
Which...is actually sad if you think about it.

[quote name='Hells Malice' post='3795437' date='Jul 26 2011, 03:06 PM']

Someone told me that you never know how lucky you are until you try.

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I'd like to point out that logically, this quote makes 0 sense.

Still, I agree. You type better then half the worlds native English speakers.
Which...is actually sad if you think about it.
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Thanks for point it out ! For this sentence, it is my mind moving, it encouraged me to post this topic, so I said it together.

[quote name='Snailface' post='3795376' date='Jul 26 2011, 07:24 AM']It's funny that the people who apologize for speaking English poorly are usually far from the worst at it. I guess humility is a trait of well-read people. [/quote]
I think the more you learn something, the more you realize that you still have so much thing you don't know.
Like we say "blessed are the poor in spirit", they don't know they are stupid, they live happily.


I think what you are missing in english is vocabulary.
If you are like me, you can read and understand almost everything correctly, but I can't write sentences by myself using advanced words (specific domains and themes, like laywer's terms, medical words, etc.), even polite or formal form to spkeak with your superior.

I suggest you read a lot of English texts or books to get used to vocabulary from "outside internet forums and chats". Internet is full of people not speaking proper grammar, so you may learn bad things (like a lot of people mix "then" and "than", "your" and "you'r" etc.).
What's great with people learning a language is that they are learning grammar at school and they tend to be more careful at choosing the correct word than native speakers. (same for people learning French and native French)


About oral, there are not a lot of possibilities.
Try watching movie/listening radio informations without subtitles. (good to understand, but not enough to speak).
Travel to an English speaking country few weeks/months.
Check if you have English speaking community near your town, like foreign students.

I believe your thread title was intended to be "A personal inquiry"

Hope that helps a little.

[quote name='Cyan' post='3795624' date='Jul 26 2011, 06:58 PM'][quote name='Snailface' post='3795376' date='Jul 26 2011, 07:24 AM']It's funny that the people who apologize for speaking English poorly are usually far from the worst at it. I guess humility is a trait of well-read people. [/quote]
I think the more you learn something, the more you realize that you still have so much thing you don't know.
Like we say "blessed are the poor in spirit", they don't know they are stupid, they live happily.


I think what you are missing in english is vocabulary.
If you are like me, you can read and understand almost everything correctly, but I can't write sentences by myself using advanced words (specific domains and themes, like laywer's terms, medical words, etc.), even polite or formal form to spkeak with your superior.

I suggest you read a lot of English texts or books to get used to vocabulary from "outside internet forums and chats". Internet is full of people not speaking proper grammar, so you may learn bad things (like a lot of people mix "then" and "than", "your" and "you'r" etc.).
What's great with people learning a language is that they are learning grammar at school and they tend to be more careful at choosing the correct word than native speakers. (same for people learning French and native French)


About oral, there are not a lot of possibilities.
Try watching movie/listening radio informations without subtitles. (good to understand, but not enough to speak).
Travel to an English speaking country few weeks/months.
Check if you have English speaking community near your town, like foreign students.
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Your suggestion is very good. However Maybe we have the different idea on good english. I think good english is mainly for communication, if I can communicate with you success, then I have a good english. haha, so on my opinion, every people who speaks english has a good english!

[quote name='Vulpes Abnocto' post='3795651' date='Jul 26 2011, 07:34 PM']I believe your thread title was intended to be "A personal inquiry"

Hope that helps a little.[/quote]

Thanks.

you mean what words to use so you can properly deliver your message?

[quote name='Narayan' post='3796815' date='Jul 26 2011, 09:45 PM']you mean what words to use so you can properly deliver your message?[/quote]
I believe he is asking for oral english help.

There should be some English lessons on Youtube, if I am not mistaken. Watching a person speak, as well as hearing them is a great way to learn how to speak a different language.

As for your typing, you are doing great!

You should try Simple English Wikipedia if you want easy english grammar, as well.

[quote name='Slyakin' post='3796818' date='Jul 27 2011, 09:50 AM'][quote name='Narayan' post='3796815' date='Jul 26 2011, 09:45 PM']you mean what words to use so you can properly deliver your message?[/quote]
I believe he is asking for oral english help.

There should be some English lessons on Youtube, if I am not mistaken. Watching a person speak, as well as hearing them is a great way to learn how to speak a different language.

As for your typing, you are doing great!

You should try Simple English Wikipedia if you want easy english grammar, as well.
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it was because of his reply to fast.

i have difficulty in creating sentences in english orally because there aren't many people who knows how to speak proper english here.

and in typing you can easily press backspace and type it again, or proofread it. whereas in speaking, you won't have the same amount of time to think about what you will say.

[quote name='Narayan' post='3796815' date='Jul 27 2011, 09:45 AM']you mean what words to use so you can properly deliver your message?[/quote]


no. I mean you can speak english in daily life. oral english.

[quote name='Narayan' post='3796821' date='Jul 26 2011, 09:55 PM'][quote name='Slyakin' post='3796818' date='Jul 27 2011, 09:50 AM'][quote name='Narayan' post='3796815' date='Jul 26 2011, 09:45 PM']you mean what words to use so you can properly deliver your message?[/quote]
I believe he is asking for oral english help.

There should be some English lessons on Youtube, if I am not mistaken. Watching a person speak, as well as hearing them is a great way to learn how to speak a different language.

As for your typing, you are doing great!

You should try Simple English Wikipedia if you want easy english grammar, as well.
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it was because of his reply to fast.

i have difficulty in creating sentences in english orally because there aren't many people who knows how to speak proper english here.

and in typing you can easily press backspace and type it again, or proofread it. whereas in speaking, you won't have the same amount of time to think about what you will say.
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Oh, I'm sorry! I actually never even noticed your English. You look like a native speaker and writer to me!

And you are right. Of course, when learning a language, people won't accuse you if you make mistakes.

[quote name='Slyakin' post='3796818' date='Jul 27 2011, 09:50 AM'][quote name='Narayan' post='3796815' date='Jul 26 2011, 09:45 PM']you mean what words to use so you can properly deliver your message?[/quote]
I believe he is asking for oral english help.

There should be some English lessons on Youtube, if I am not mistaken. Watching a person speak, as well as hearing them is a great way to learn how to speak a different language.

As for your typing, you are doing great!

You should try Simple English Wikipedia if you want easy english grammar, as well.
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you are right, thanks for understanding. Ok, watching movie, listen to the music, and hearing them to speak. they are all of my love, and I always do it ,however, I always saw the subtitle at the same time. I will try to see without the subtitle, maybe it can help. Thanks again.

[quote name='Narayan' post='3796821' date='Jul 27 2011, 09:55 AM'][quote name='Slyakin' post='3796818' date='Jul 27 2011, 09:50 AM'][quote name='Narayan' post='3796815' date='Jul 26 2011, 09:45 PM']you mean what words to use so you can properly deliver your message?[/quote]
I believe he is asking for oral english help.

There should be some English lessons on Youtube, if I am not mistaken. Watching a person speak, as well as hearing them is a great way to learn how to speak a different language.

As for your typing, you are doing great!

You should try Simple English Wikipedia if you want easy english grammar, as well.
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it was because of his reply to fast.

i have difficulty in creating sentences in english orally because there aren't many people who knows how to speak proper english here.

and in typing you can easily press backspace and type it again, or proofread it. whereas in speaking, you won't have the same amount of time to think about what you will say.
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you are right, in typing you can easily press backspace and type it again, or proofread it. whereas in speaking, you won't have the same amount of time to think about what you will say. that is the difficult point.