Hacking ethics

So, just something I need to put out there since I've seen this come up in other scenes like PSP, Vita and maybe others. How is it that some devs will claim an ethical stance against ROMS and playing backups but allow homebrew emulators? Sure an SNES game is worth about $1 now and I guess the devs are retired by now, but aren't you still allowing someone the means of playing a stolen (albeit older) game? Is it just games that are currently for sale in stores that are unethical to copy? This seems like a flaw in that logic. Personally I'm for adding as much functionality as possible and letting everyone else choose their own moral path. This just hit me as I'm waiting for SSSpwn to be released. Plus, in this case, building a 3DS/DS ROM loader would help kill Gateway. I view Gateway and a Cobra ODE (ps3) as just about the worst things I've seen in the scene over the years. Hacking has always been more about open source, bragging rights, cat n mouse with big corps. Not stealing ideas from others or forcing someone to pay $100 for a hack...

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Nah, I'm just gonna wait for the real hackers to come in.

I'm fine with smea, though. He's just doing it to bring Homebrew past 4.5. I still kinda wish he stuck with <4.5 a little bit more, though...

The Wii U scene, however. Fuck that garbage. I don't count the guys on GBATemp as "hackers". They can't even display pictures with the exploit they're using, they're fucking lost. I see a few other people outside of this website working on that scene at a much higher rate, so I'll wait for them.
 
I don't understand what you mean by "real hackers" - either they're hackers or they aren't. Dismissing Temper devs is also quite odd, especially considering the fact that some of the very first 3DS Mode emulators come from GBATemp members. A dev is a dev, it's nice to see people working on both systems, regardless of where they come from.
 
I'm not dismissing GBATemp developers. Some are great. I'm not gonna follow someone who isn't doing anything I'm interested in (Or not doing anything at all), though.

Get it?
 
lol the "real hackers" are already here but they are too busy selling flash cards to give cry babies free r0mz pl0x
here has been 1 generation of consoles with free piracy solutions and all of a sudden everyone screams injustice when they dont get to pirate for free.....as if the saving from not actually buying the games and only having to pay the price equivalent of like 2 games is some sort of archaic solution.....because guess what, as long as there is money to be made there will be people holding back on free piracy in favor of selling paid for solutions

trying to insinuate smealum is not a "real hacker" because he doesn't give a bunch of idiots who wouldn't know what a hack was if the 3ds had a big red button with "HACK" wrote across it on the front of the 3DS is just laughable

nowhere in the description of hacker does it say they need to release anything at all.....im sure all the big companies have some amazing hackers employed to work for them( no doubt way better than a lot of scene hackers).....because they dont give people free r0ms does that make them any less talented at hacking?
 
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@gamesquest1 Read what I said, I still somewhat support what smea is doing. It may not be right on queue with what I'd like, but it's doing a good thing. Exploit access is the only reason it's limited the way it is, so I'm fine with it.

Would be cool to see a better exploit come of what he's releasing, though.
 
yeah but what you have to realize is that the 3DS is a very well secured console, the simple fact he has found a way of executing code in pretty much every firmware released to date is no small feat

people seem to think exploits grow on tree's and that just doing a bunch of random stuff for long enough = hack, it doesn't it takes a very talented hacker a long time basically searching for a needle in a haystack that might not even exist
 
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If you don't agree with that, then you're an idiot. I've been playing the waiting game for a long time, and still am.

It kinda erks ya when someone claims they've got something, and it ends up being completely opposite of what you were expecting.
 
If you're in a hurry, buy a Gateway. If you don't want a Gateway, don't complain. It's early days of the scene - we're still miles and miles away from the first custom firmware, so you might as well take a chill pill because your dream isn't going to come true anytime soon.
 
Gosh that sounded almost like you're trying to make me feel bad.

But I do have a Gateway, somewhere... :unsure:
 

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