I finally have TV again... and uhh

It's been about 5 and a half years since I've moved from the city to a town, and since then I didn't really have a TV subscription. Well, technically I did, but I couldn't really use it. You see, in the city I had cable. When I moved here I subscribed to an IPTV service but couldn't really use it, since the TV is on the ground floor and the closest Ethernet cable is upstairs.
Fast forward to today and I had satellite TV set up. This way, the dish is relatively close to the TV and it works. But here come the problems. I can't stand set-top boxes. They are a waste of space, electricity, batteries, and sanity. Not only do they make you use two separate remotes, but this way, the TV signal skips the TV's OS, so most if not all of the TV's features go to waste as it gets reduced to a simple display. This is especially annoying if you, like me, have an expensive smart TV that you were looking forward to using for anything else than YouTube and now you realise you could've bought a much cheaper, dumber TV, and saved your money for something else.
Now, you might be thinking, “hey silly, you don't need a set-top box to watch TV. Simply get a keycard>Common Interface adaptor, plug that and the dish cable into your TV and you can avoid using that set-top box ever again!” Believe me, I would love to do that, but these people apparently have DRM or something on their signal, because when I asked the guy who set it up this same question, he said the boxes and the dish are 'linked' and that I can't do that. He also mentioned this would've been possible in the past, but they outright stopped supporting it. Back then they had the option to choose between using a set-top box or just your TV, but there were people who were butthurt that they had a set-top box and others didn't, and when they tried not having one they were too dumb to use their own TV's OS, so the provider decided that everyone would have to have a set-top box because its OS is 'easier to use and support' and it seems that people who are not too dumb to use their own TVs don't matter.
But is the set-top box's OS really that bad? Well it's not terrible, but it's still pretty bad. It's limited compared to my TV for a start. Also, it looks like as if it was designed in 2003 (except, amusingly, the system update screen, which looks suspiciously close to the modern PlayStation look), oh, and, to me, it looks like an accessibility nightmare. In the menu, the colour of highlighted and regular text is really similar. I have good vision and I still had trouble telling what option I was selecting the first time I was using it. And the English UI is badly translated.
Oh, and one last thing, which is not the set-top box's nor the provider's fault (...probably), but I have 7 movie channels and only 3 of them have an English audio option.
What the fuck?


(The display in the pictures is my monitor, not the smart TV downstairs)

UPDATE 2019.12.27:
So, my grandma recently got herself a new TV plan with these lads and guess what: she has no set-top-box. The TV signal runs directly into her TV and she's able to use her TV's stock OS and functions instead of this crappy thing. Needless to say I'll be calling up DIGI tomorrow.

UPDATE 2019.12.28:
Welp, turns out only cable users can use their TV without a set-top-box, not satellite ones, and we don't have the option to use cable. sigh
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God how long has it been since I last watched TV? 8 years or more I believe.

Enjoy your new thing smiley.
 
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TV is crap, I never understood why people actually PAY for it when you can watch ANYTHING you might ever want to on a PC and without ads that take up half of your time... Haven't watched TV in ~8 years also, so yeah...

But have fun with it I guess:P
 
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Ok yeah, but are you sure that both Verison Fios and DirectTV are not available in your country? If so, try landline cable.
 
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Many TVs and set top boxes will have means of communicating and thus reducing the remote count, to say nothing of the classic universal/programmable remote. HDMI-CEC is the name for the technology but some manufacturers use different terms just for fun it seems.

If power is a concern then there are cheap devices which will sense the TV no longer taking power and turn them off as well, or turn off from the TV remote.

Expensive smart TV is just as much a waste of money as cheap smart TV -- I have tried hundreds and there has not yet been one worth the effort. It it almost a feat in and of itself that.

As for "nearest ethernet" you know they make ethernet over powerline these days? They are very fast and surprisingly cheap.
 
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Megadriver94 said:
Ok yeah, but are you sure that both Verison Fios and DirectTV are not available in your country?
Okay, one, Verizon Fios is not just TV. It's a TV-internet-telephone bundle. Not only do I not want to transfer completely to Verizon, the service is only available in 9 US states, not even the entire country, not to mention Europe.
Two, DirecTV is only available in the Americas. Granted, that's more than just the US, but still not Europe.

Megadriver94 said:
try landline cable
Cable isn't an option anywhere in Hungary. All of the TV providers want you to use their crappy boxes.

FAST6191 said:
Many TVs and set top boxes will have means of communicating and thus reducing the remote count, to say nothing of the classic universal/programmable remote. HDMI-CEC is the name for the technology but some manufacturers use different terms just for fun it seems.
I have been looking for that option in the box's settings, but no luck, I'm afraid. And I don't think there's a universal remote that would support both Android TV and its means of connecting to the remote via Bluetooth (I think) at the same time as the box's infrared.

FAST6191 said:
As for "nearest ethernet" you know they make ethernet over powerline these days? They are very fast and surprisingly cheap.
Back when I was still trying to make the IPTV box work, the provider suggested using (and sold me) a pair of Ethernet-power plug adaptors, but they didn't work very well. The signal would get stuck on a single frame for hours, or in some cases, days.
 
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UPDATE 2019.12.27:
So, my grandma recently got herself a new TV plan with these lads and guess what: she has no set-top-box. The TV signal runs directly into her TV and she's able to use her TV's stock OS and functions instead of this crappy thing. Needless to say I'll be calling up DIGI tomorrow.
 
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UPDATE 2019.12.28:
Welp, turns out only cable users can use their TV without a set-top-box, not satellite ones, and we don't have the option to use cable. sigh
 
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Modern tv has built in dvb-s2 tuner. And if you don't have it, today stb can be very small, and you can hide in the back of your tv, however that models are limited(not linux stations), so if your tv have satellite tuner try check your provider, sometimes you can get cam module paired with card from your operator. No stb needed. As for me there's nothing worth to watch in paytv. FTA nhk world make my day. I found something like "DIGI Smart CAM". Isn't that for satellite?
 
plasturion said:
I found something like "DIGI Smart CAM". Isn't that for satellite?
Nah, that's cable-only. I think that's the thing that lets you get around using a set-top-box if you have a cable subscription.
 
Well that's how they treat people, same here in my country few years ago subscribers don't have other choice than using STB. I wonder if you can take an offer from Focus Sat, provider offer CAM module and there are channels with hungarian audio stream. https://pl.kingofsat.net/pack-focussat.php I wonder if they still ofer dvb-s channels, if so it may bad idea watching old dvb-s /mpeg-2 channels on big 4k tv. Upscaling PAL few times destroy tv image quality.
 

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