My dad on the gaming industry prices.

Today is the one of many times my dad comes to me discussing video game consoles and the prices. He saw the prices of Xbox one s and complains about the price being $400. This is one of many excuses why he comes to me to talk about the same thing we discussed at least 10 times already within a month. :glare:

His arguement is always the same for obvious reasons. But talking to me about it isn't gonna change my opinion and it won't change his. The truth is not talking to discuss decisions made by the gaming industry, but more of a demand in his own way that he wants to pay less for a console instead of what the Market retail price. To mostly anyone, sure that would be good for us, but not fot people providing the stuff. Is always a argument and it always ends the same way. He wants price drop of a ps4 cause he doesn't have money to pay full price for it. Of course just cause someone wants that doesn't mean it works that way.

If i have to endure more torture with the same unnecessary debate again, i'm not gonna be happy. He says that all people should stop buying consoles until the prices drop. Of course that would happen if people did that. But it would be majority of people who have to trigger that. If he doesn't wanna pay $300 or whatever the price is for a ps4 then don't do it. Wait for a.... ps5 to release in 4 years then buy a ps4 at less than $200 and play all the outdated games. I don't care, just stop talking to me about it, i'm not gonna change my opinion on how business practice is. Yes sometimes is unfair but is how it is sometimes. If Him or I was in business, you wouldn't complain about charging people for the prices of things cause you could be greedy like some people are. We are consumers and i understand fustration of not getting great deals on products, but understanding how business is done he would get his answers instead of asking me 10 times the same thing with no change in result only to reject my idea with negative comments.

You don't like my opinion, ask someone else, go do some research, come back to me when you want to discuss things on mutual level of even grounds, not behave as if you can't respect people opinions or understand what other people are doing to provide things you want. Go into business yourself and try to pay $40,000 to make about $200 next gen console and sell it for $250 or whatever and see if you would have enough to make more or even profit from it with that decision. There is a whole world with people who has different opinions and pratices.

If people are still buying consoles or games for the $400 they set the price at, there is no reason to change that until is stops selling and you want to get more buyers then reduce prices. I learned about supply & demand. I bought games for super cheap cause of supply and demand. Also there is no reason to complain about DLC. Is true that dlc is a new dynamic to gaming stanards now and days, But not all dls is purposely excluded content from the whole game, some is made as after thought to a game or cause people want more out of the games. Some is scumbaggery but not all dlc is that way. If he thought about it thisway, without dlc, the games we purchase would have Every single piece of content in it, it would cost more, or we would have to pay to own expansion of a game we already had, Street fighter game series already part of that with is many SF2 and SF3 and SF4 games. DLC is a option, and is made by developers not requirement by consumers. Don't like it, don't bother with it.

I just don't like his unreasonable complaints, especially when asking me for opinions and disregarding it cause is not what he wanted to hear. Ask someone else, he asking the wrong person. I don't always disagree with him but he need to stop asking questions in very specific ways, as if leading me to say things he wanted to hear and taking it out of context to build the puzzle of what he wanted. I'm not that person. :blink:
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"Also there is no reason to complain about DLC. Is true that dlc is a new dynamic to gaming stanards now and days, But not all dls is purposely excluded content from the whole game, some is made as after thought to a game or cause people want more out of the games."

TOTALLY AGREE! I don't get the hate for good DLC that is made to improve a game or such for the players or show people's dedication...
 
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I dunno, gaming was different before online services and dlc became trending. Instead of just payng small fees for extra content, we had to just buy the game again with the included content. Even still some people do that.... capcom :P

Expansions, add ons, extras whatever. Yes it kinda does suck sometimes but is better to least have the option of what you do want to pay for instead of paying probabl twice as much as the game is actually worth. If dead or alive 5 was sold in 2012 with every single piece of current DLC then, it be over $500 and probably be limited collectors edition. Bad move, It was better to include the important parts of the game and offer lesser necessary parts as optional purchases. To be honest weather i'm wrong or right, i think dlc managed to make retail games less expensive as they could have been.
 
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I'd rather be playing on an old console than the newer ones as those have the games I'd want to play and they're not filled with DLCs, day-one updates and other sorts of crap that require an internet connection. Perhaps you should educate your father about video gaming and show him the way.

Note: I skimmed through your post so didn't read it all but think I got the jist, that your father's annoying you about console prices being expensive and that they should drop down.
 
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My dad comes up to me every time I get a new console or game with the same argument
"But don't you already have enough games?"
And I always have the same awsner
"But haven't you already watched enough movies?"
He just says "But it's different" and then stops talking xD

It doesn't matter much because I always end up buying what I want and he always plays with me so meh
 
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@Saiyan Lusitano Yes, his complaints is obviously he wants a ps4, since he isn't happy with the xbox one. He saw at e3 this year all the stuff for ps4 he wanted and isn't for xbox one. Keeping the faction wars between console fanboys aside, he keeps talking about how is too much for a console.

I only told him he is saying that cause someone is mad he can't afford it. He is thinking like a consumer. Yes to be honest, i can't afford one either, and i do want one, i would like a price drop sale or something, but is not how it works. I was approaching him with the business approach, and he says i am defending them. I'm not defending anyone personally, i am making a statement that because business works differently than how you want or expect things to go well for us, that is not gonna happen, and price drops are not in the market best interest.

If Xbox or sony can get away with selling $400 with no problems, there no reason for them to change the price, if they were not selling as well then they would be tempted to do so. Yes is not good for people who don't have money to pay for it, but they aren't worry about the minorites, they are worry about majority consumers like the people on youtube and twitch who play games all the time, is good for their business. People like me and him play very low minor roles in the industry since we don't have luxory of buying all the stuff we want. I would like to get a PS4 with a working arcade stick to play Blazblue an Guilty gear and such, or anything else i like but the money required is not available and waiting for price drops is the last thing anyone should do cause it gonna happen anyway, so relying on something with unknown factor is the last thing someone should always do.
 
Because i have lots to say, and i wasn't exactly looking for help, i was writing my personal thoughts and opinions. Is here for anyone to read and comment. Though i can't do anything about what you decided to do or complain about.:mellow:
 
I do agree with him on one front the next gen consoles are stupidly expensive unwanted PC masterrace comment here but for 400bucks you can have a decent low-midtier pc too ;O;
 
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So you want to buy a pc for 400$ right? You can get i7 4th gen processor 3.7ghz turbo 3.9ghz, 16gb ram, 2gb geforce gtx 650 graphic card, Best power supply, 2015 gigabyte mother board & 2tb drive in that range.
 
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I don't get it. How is your dad an SJW? Does it trigger him that the Xbone S is white and not black?
 
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As a general rule of thumb, hoping for humans to just change how they do things is dumb. Like, super wishful thinking. It accomplishes nothing but show one's ignorance of humans and how reality works. It's the equivalent of going "It should be lower, so i'm sure it will be lower".

Arguing best bang for your buck isn't a bad argument, but that's assuming the only thing you care about is getting the same games for a certain price. There are a lot of other things I'm sure you care about other than price :P He should appreciate that what you appreciate goes beyond which is cheaper.
 
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One thing I dont like about dlc is that it usually never drops in price as it ages. Even as the disc versions game of the year editions with the dlc drops and disc locked content is pure bullshit
 
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Well dlc is a digital only services so unless the person hosting it does something about it, it doesn't change. But since is optional is not really their concern to do such things even if it can mean more sales. But they do end up making some "Ultimate edition" Where all dlc is part of reselling the game like Injustice ultimate or Mortal kombat XL

Most Dlc now and days are just costumes and skins hardly any game changing elements to experience. DOA5 LS is a different story. Is has a fighting game that is refined to th core but all dlc is mostly licensed costumes and very low chance a new character. They have enough money for a ninja gaiden 4 or DOA6 or anything else, but why bother if they can make money off a 4 year old game with licensed anime costumes? :P

Of course the old day we had to unlock our content by performing some ridiclous task but now we just buy it, least make it optional to work for it and unlock instead of mandatory payment. :(

Then again it may be like the Pay to win mentality that some games have.
 
Also if u want to pay less for a game console new get a part time job at a retailer that sells them. I paid $100 less on a ps4 on launch day due to employee discount, employee exclusive coupons and a redcard %5 off perk
 
Sounds like your dad is just looking for something you guys can talk about. Seems like, from your post, that he doesn't relate to you very well and is trying to talk about something he knows is a hobby of yours. The fact that he brings it up often probably means he cant think of much else to talk to you about. I think anyone that wasn't into video games would eventually bring up price. Also, who would have a serious heated debate with their child about product pricing? That's silly.

I think the disregardIing your opinions stuff is him trying to pull you out of your own world a bit and see things from his point of view. Maybe I'm wrong, but this whole thing sounds like a father trying to relate to a child that has no interest in anything but their own hobbies.

I say give him a break. Spend some time with him doing something he wants to do.
 
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