The Greatest Love Story Ever Filmed

Well, I actually like the stop motion effects. After all it is a damaged robot coming out of a fire and unable to do smooth movements anymore. I like creative tricks more than CGI. It is nothing new like when Jurassic Park came out. CGI can do anything nowadays and I tend to find it boring because of this.

The final scenes are really threatening: This damn thing would just not stop. Run over by a truck. Truck exploded. Flesh burned off. It just wouldn't stop!

To be honest I would have given up and just told it: "Please kill me quickly."

The first two movies are masterpieces. I watch them occasionally.

I can see what you mean when it comes to scenes where the Terminator is damaged, I'm talking about specific instances where it comes across as the model moving much faster than it's supposed to. In some scenes the effect looks great, even today, but in others it's very janky, possibly due to a framerate mismatch in the Ultra HD remaster. The scenes where the endoskeleton is articulated by hand are excellent and believable, but the stop motion ones are hit and miss. I also prefer practical effects over CGI (I don't really like CGI in live action movies in general, the rear projection looks just fine in this film, and it's nearly 40 years old. In contrast, CGI looks dated in a hurry), I just don't fancy stop motion - it rarely looks good. I certainly remember it looking much better on a smaller CRT, but then again, I can say that about most things - CRT's cover up a lot of the imperfections you're not meant to see.

Seen the blog title and thought wow Foxi4 has made a blog about Breakfast at Tiffany's only to be sadly crushed to find out its a blog about Terminator. Sure Terminator is a great film but not even close to the title of greatest love story ever filmed in my opinion.

Talking about stop motion, you should at least try to check out the skeleton sword fight scene in the movie "Jason and the Argonauts" (available on Netflix). It's really well made, and this movie was released in 1963.

The Shape of Water has to be up there for greatest love story in a movie.

As far as The Terminator, some of the acting in that movie is FAR, FAR worse than the stop motion effects but I've seen no frame rate issue with the UHD. Those scenes look to be the exact same speed as every other release I've ever watched.

Well @AmandaRose, I can understand point of view. There are two camps in this regard - those who think that The Terminator gets this prestigious title and those who are wrong.

If we are talking special effects then video I saw recently


If am being Because I am an arsehole I do also have to note the love story can't have really been all that as they were barely out of the butterflies stage and compounded by adrenaline dumps. An intense passion maybe but love story is a stretch.
Anyway I also don't know about time travel love plots, and we are going to have to resolve the destiny/doomed to repeat vs future is what you make it. While I might be arsehole enough for the above thing I will spare us discussion of the various post 2 sequels and TV show (even if the TV show might actually stand up somewhat).

Whenever someone mentions 'Terminator' this immediately springs to mind.

Shocker: I never watched any Terminator, I don't like Starwars either.
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@FAST6191 In all fairness, Kyle Reese grew up falling in love with a woman from a picture he never knew that he was unknowingly destined to meet via time travel in order to protect her and, in the process, create the man who gave him said picture in the first place. Reese had many years to think about Sarah, for Sarah it worked in reverse - she kept the picture she purchased for $5 at a gas station in the middle of nowhere in order to give it to her son - the same picture Reese falls in love with. It's a bit of a loopity-loop.

@D34DL1N3R The Shape of Water is a great movie! I must watch it again one day. I also liked The Notebook, also a good love story. I like those romantic movies, once in a while, if the story is good. Only kind of movies I despise are the cookie-cutter dumb action movies. I never cared about any movies Jason Statham appeared in.

@Dust2dust I pretty much agree with what you say about Jason Statham other than two of his films.

Lock Stock And Two Smoking Barrels and Snatch are great comedy/gangster films and he is hugely funny in them. It's a shame he hasn't done more films like them since.

Terminator 1 > 2, sorry, I'll die on that hill. The horror elements, the jank of the robot, Kyle Reese being the coolest man on this earth. All of it. I love 1 so much. 2 is amazing as well, but 1 is <3 4eva

Their love was a predestination paradox destiny.

@Lacius They actually establish early on that Future War is only one of many possible futures, so technically it's only predestined in that timeline. There's an infinite amount of timelines where Kyle Reese got cock blocked by Arnie, if he got sent back at all since his failure would mean that John Connor was never born, the resistance movement never existed and nobody was there to storm the TDE in the first place.

@Chary That's a fair argument, Kyle does kick ass, especially in the Tech-Noir scene. That, and the track is pretty dope.

@notrea11y Editing a comment doesn't really break the formatting. It just looks horrible until you reload the page.

@Chary Tough one. Generally I consider the second one better than the first. But looking at the budget of the first movie makes the old one more impressive from a certain point of view. I love both movies.
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And: Argh. Story with time travel. Hello (Grandfather)Paradox. Hello Many Worlds Interpretation. It happens all the time. Whenever there is a story with time travel backwards this comes up and makes a headache.

As long as we can agree that there are no Terminator movies past no.2 I think all is well.

I saw this weird fan-made take on Terminator called Dark Fate or something. It was kinda lame. I'm glad it wasn't a real movie made by any film studio though, ha ha.

Better Love Story then the new terminator movies

I still haven't watched anything past Salvation, and I'm told that I'm not missing much. If I can't get a shotgun shootout in the 80's then why tune in at all? No joke, they should just 80-ties-fy a block of LA for a while if they really want to shoot a new Terminator, give everyone brick phones and neon clothing. There's no shortage of street bums, so the budget for extras is automatically reduced.

Foxi4 said:

If I can't get a shotgun shootout in the 80's then why tune in at all? No joke, they should just 80-ties-fy a block of LA for a while if they really want to shoot a new Terminator, give everyone brick phones and neon clothing.

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It is a solid plan. However I will have to instead plump for "what if once upon a time in hollywood was a terminator film?".