The story and struggle of an incompetent government and an Oculus

If I live through today may I never deal with troubleshooting the government’s tech problems ever again.

It all started with a phone call. My mom, who works with a city government, needed me to help set up something for the senior citizen division. They bought a VR headset for the seniors to play with, and take VR tours since they’re not allowed to take trips outside for now. Cute idea.

Except literally everything on this earth was actively working against it.

So, to set up the Oculus Go, it needs a phone app. Simply download the app and sync it. Easy!

But that’s a lie. For, you see, the government office is very particular. You can’t just have some random person use their own (my) account. It’s a breach of security, to them. So we need to use someone who works within the city to use their phone. They’re specific about this.

I ask for a phone to use, then.

My mom is using an LG Moto from 2013. Loading the Play Store just about murders the phone entirely. No way.

That’s okay though, her boss has a phone!

It’s a 2007 flip phone.

Oh.

I walk down to the other side of the building—there’s someone there certainly with a phone not from the stone ages.

Except there’s not.

There’s a tablet though, whew. That’ll work.

Just kidding, it’s a surface tablet. It can’t run android apps.

But someone has a Galaxy Tab! Thank goodness! We’re saved.

It’s a Galaxy Tab first gen. The Oculus App isn’t supported, apparently.

We drive to another branch of the government center, where they most certainly will have a device. An iPad Pro, no way can this go wrong now! It will work certainly. They even give me the passcode to get into it, so there’s no room for error.

Until I see that no one is signed into the App Store. There is no Apple ID.

So, I call. I ask for the password. I’m given the password. It is incorrect.

I call the IT department. I ask for the password. It’s incorrect.

That’s it, I give up, I’m done! Screw the rules. I’ll sign in myself to the App Store. I get the app. It all works flawlessly.

When they ask how I did it, I told them I’m a hacker and made it work with magic.

Now I need a Facebook account. Of course. This will end well.

To my total shock and surprise that I was not expecting, the Facebook needs a 2FA code. Where did that 2FA code go? No one knows. The person who created the account does not know. Not a single person in this entire government workforce knows.

NO IT’S FINE OKAY I’LL USE MY OWN ACCOUNT WHATEVER. STALK ME HARDER, FACEBOOK DADDY.

It’s okay everyone, I’m a hacker. Don’t question this.

So,

Now I need to connect to the WiFi. There is no public WiFi. I need a password.

I’m going to die before I set this device up.

Knowing it won’t end well, I ask for the WiFi password. “What is that?”, I’m told.

Deep breath, chary. Deep breath.

Someone. Someone out there created this WiFi password. They must know. Certainly. They must.

They did. The person who created it knew the password when they set it up.

They died nearly a decade ago.

I’m pretty sure they took that password to the grave.

Nothing is okay.

No one knows how to get into the WiFi.

I’m going to be here for the rest of my life.

There is no escape.
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Oh my oh no, I don't know what the worst part is
Perhaps that they're paying for internet when the password is literally dead?
An iPad Pro that literally isn't even signed in?

Run away. They're gonna hold you hostage because you can't show them Peru
 
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I thought the Oculus Go was discontinued months ago (and obsolete)? How did that happen-
Okie here's the plan:
Take the headset to an Apple store, get the Oculus app on one of their phones, sign in and everything. If the store doesn't have Wifi you can use for the headset, go to a Best Buy or McDonalds and use theirs. Do NOT use your Facebook account on that headset that's the last thing you wanna do-

And then when you get back, just download some internet to the headset.
If that doesn't work, file a complaint at [email protected]
 
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If the Oculus Go was made obsolete then that’s just icing on the trash cake that everything else has been and really just fits the situation
 
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@Chary they stopped supporting it a long time ago- people are trying to sell it for less and less every day. The current average price is $120

You seem to be having a wonderful day today :rofl:
 
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I just asked. The government bought it for $270. They were told that the Go was the best model for what they needed.

Ha.

Haha.
 
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Here's a big brain solution. Convince them that AR is inherently superior to VR and use that instead to entertain them. Like hand them a 3DS and get them to play Face Raiders or something.

If they question how exactly Face Raiders is supposed to provide a tour of the outside world, just tell them it's fine and how great they're doing at the game.

No accounts or downloading necessary.
 
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This is why I don't use Oculus. When I first set up my Samsung VR headset for my S7 Edge, I signed in to an account, not knowing it was Facebook. After removing my account, I then used the VR headset for other VR apps, including Fulldive, which is the most customizable VR video player out there, but unfortunately not as feature rich and customizable as I'd like.

Android needs better VR apps, IMHO. Something like Oculus, but NOT Oculus. You know what I mean.
 
I wish your dad was with you Chary I would have loved to hear what he had to say about the disaster you are having lol.
 
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Thank you for this really,really nice Story around Christmas Time.:)






Thats how are People "threatened" without a Smartphone in our Society if you need such Things like Chary:
https://i.ibb.co/xsJrhDV/smiley-emoticons-waffe13.gif https://i.ibb.co/Rjx8vfW/smiley-emoticons-axt.gif

Having no Smartphone (like me) -> https://i.ibb.co/xsJrhDV/smiley-emoticons-waffe13.gif https://i.ibb.co/Rjx8vfW/smiley-emoticons-axt.gif

For your own in your "Safe Home" - No Problem.
If you need something "outside" or "from Outside" to be a "Piece of the Society" -> https://i.ibb.co/xsJrhDV/smiley-emoticons-waffe13.gif https://i.ibb.co/Rjx8vfW/smiley-emoticons-axt.gif

I can no long hear this complete stupid Statement "Das können sie sich EINFACH auf Ihr Smartphone laden....."
(You can SIMPLY download it onto your Smartphone ...)
if I need a simple Answer of a Simple Question standing at the checkout of a Store or asking an "Instructor/Teacher" in a fu**ing distant "Videolesson"....and you do not even have to be "stoneold" ...



Life makes sometime really Fun....:)
 
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"And this, ladies and gents, is why big government is slow and incompetent compared to small businesses!"

For real tho, it does boggle one's mind that you have people in government who are responsible for keeping things secure, and they have such old devices that, if some legit black hat hacker had nefarious intent and the means to do so, who knows how much information he/she could get access to? I mean, let's run down the list here:

*LG Moto 2013. No offense, but I can imagine someone already knows how to hack that thing like the back of their hand.

*2007 flip phone. This really depends on if it's running Android, if it's connected to the Internet, and a whole bunch of other factors.

*Surface tablet. While one can certainly avoid viruses in Windows more easily these days than ever, and one can still use it just fine, it's still a tablet running Windows as its basis.

*First-gen Galaxy Tab. See LG Moto 2013.

*iPad Pro. OK, anything Apple is where what I know gets somewhat limited, but not even Apple is immune to hackers. If anything, I'd imagine their phones and tablets are easier to hack than their desktop OS...which at this point, considering how much I think is shared, one could also work their way in.


I mean, at the end of the day, a lot of people in modern society have some sort of smart device on them, for better or worse. And for my parents to have something like the above devices is fine. They're both basically retired at this point, and aren't going out as much nowadays thanks to COVID and the lockdowns. But any of these devices could have exploits that, depending on what said exploits allow, could lead to someone getting access to sensitive information. I know that various government organizations already have a backdoor to so many devices, OSes, and other things, but anyone could hack organizations like what happened to Sony in 2011 and end up doing whatever they want!

And all of this for virtual tours for senior citizens? IDK, that depends on what they mean by "virtual tours." I remember, like, 4-5 months before I finally left Walmart, they had one of those training videos they have us employees go back and watch every now and then, and one of them was using legit Oculus headsets for a phone. It was for I think looking at customers' faces and figuring out how to react or some other random thing, I don't remember. All I remember was how un-immersive it was. It was like you had a green screen with some cut-out of the interior of a Walmart store, with the faces of some random people they hired doing various face gestures. And considering that these headsets were in the device lockers (which contained scanners that employees stole all the damn time, leading to a lot of headaches for those of us working hard), I was left going, "we bought these expensive VR headsets for THIS!? I could only imagine John Carmack's reaction!" internally.

If the above experience is what they mean by virtual tours, then I hope that this program isn't being paid by Texans' tax dollars! XD
 
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Sounds like multiple levels of failures from both an IT standpoint and a user standpoint. Government regulations are very strict on what kind of devices, accounts and passwords can be used. I suspected someone was able to get around that and never tell anyone. That device should have had a government account on it with a password everyone knows.

The password thing is mostly likely managed by an IT branch office and they should be able to remote into it and reset the password if need be. Better yet I'm sure the password is written down somewhere. (technically they are not supposed to do this but you kind of have to unless you want to memorize 40 different passwords)

Also...why a flip phone?

On the other hand if they were going to bring in an Oculus Go; why wasn't this cleared with IT? ANYTHING tech wise I need to know about before I let it on my network or it is blocked server side.

Idk seems like a cluster all around.
 
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