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You accused me of something and I am asking you to support it by being specific.
Why re-tread it? I've already clarified my position, and you've already declared that you reject that clarification because it amounts to something else unpalatable in your mind.

So the answer is either "government" or "make believe". Nice chat.
You think the court system isn't a part of government? Perhaps you believe billionaires should have the final say on executive power instead? A Senate oversight committee I think would be the best solution, so long as it's stipulated it must have 3 Dem chairs, 3 Rep chairs, and 3 unaffiliated. Beyond that I'm open to reasonable suggestions, but you've rarely demonstrated that you're capable of providing those.
 

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Quote me then where.
People are not free when the the person that has as their job to report the facts of the day tells them lies. You are not free if you live in a lie. You're a prisoner of that lie.
This isn't the only thing you said, but it is the first thing that you said. This implies that it is people's job to tell the truth, and when they don't do tell the truth, it's imprisoning people.

In this comment, you assume that the role of an arbiter as valid. And then you admonish imperfect results.

Why re-tread it? I've already clarified my position, and you've already declared that you reject that clarification because it amounts to something else unpalatable in your mind.
No. It simply isn't what you said, lol. You pretty much demonstrated that partisan politics was more important than limiting powers, and then changed tones when you realized that everyone can see that you were wrong. Now you are trying to save face. Nobody's gonna join your cult.

You think the court system isn't a part of government?

Lol. Are you inventing reasons to disagree with me? Of course the court system is a part of the government. What part of what I said suggests otherwise?
 
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This isn't the only thing you said, but it is the first thing that you said. This implies that it is people's job to tell the truth, and when they don't do tell the truth, it's imprisoning people.

In this comment, you assume that the role of an arbiter as valid. And then you admonish imperfect results.

No, I don't. You're literally having a strawman argument here. At no point inferred anything but account for lying about objective truth. I went on to clarify the difference between a falsewood and a lie even. Refer to my last post for this cyclic discussion.
 
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No. It simply isn't what you said, lol.
I'll take a second opinion from somebody who isn't ESL, thanks. Foxi4 didn't have the same sort of hangups or need the same sort of clarification of my statements. You aren't ever here to discuss politics or news, only remedial semantics. At this point it would be nice to see you take a definitive stance on ANYTHING, rather than perpetually playing the "mUh BoTh sIDes" card despite the fact that your political allegiances are practically tattoo'd on your forearm.
 
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I'll take a second opinion from somebody who isn't ESL, thanks. Foxi4 didn't have the same sort of hangups or need the same sort of clarification of my statements. You aren't ever here to discuss politics or news, only remedial semantics. At this point it would be nice to see you take a definitive stance on ANYTHING, rather than perpetually playing the "mUh BoTh sIDes" card despite the fact that your political allegiances are practically tattoo'd on your forearm.


You can try the dictionary. You can also consider the context of your first comment. @Foxi4 thinks you are stupid and not malicious. I think the opposite. I hope that's clarifying.

Thanks for standing by partisan politics over the issues. I'm sorry, for you, that it's the Republicans that brought this forward and not the Democrats. Though it wouldn't prevent you from being yourself in the future, it would have prevented this useless conversation.

Love the whole "you aren't with us, you are against us" vibe. Get an armband. Start a club.
 
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freedom of speech is too broad some things can't be said

hmm

I don't care if the already-brainwashed become even more so.

I wanted to be sarcastic and say "ah, the irony" to that. But it wouldn't be fair. I wouldn't say you are brainwashed. Just monolithic.

Wait, was that sarcastic too?
 
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You can try the dictionary. You can also consider the context of your first comment. Foxi4 thinks you are stupid and not malicious. I think the opposite. I hope that's clarifying.
Nah Foxi knows that I at least hold consistent positions on any given topic, even if they aren't positions he agrees with. You however I KNOW are malicious, entirely close-minded, and you also have no purpose in being here.

ah. the irony. thick like gravy.
Yeah man, I've been brainwashed by capitalism's anti-capitalist agenda. Got me dead to rights, there.
 
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I'll take a second opinion from somebody who isn't ESL, thanks. Foxi4 didn't have the same sort of hangups or need the same sort of clarification of my statements. You aren't ever here to discuss politics or news, only remedial semantics. At this point it would be nice to see you take a definitive stance on ANYTHING, rather than perpetually playing the "mUh BoTh sIDes" card despite the fact that your political allegiances are practically tattoo'd on your forearm.
For the record, I’m also an ESL, I just happened to teach English, so my brain farts are usually caused by predictive text rather than a different logic system (and they are different, which causes some comprehension issues, but this isn’t a thread about translation studies). Let’s not attack each other with pointless ad hominems, that’s not productive.

@tabzer Does it *really* matter if @Xzi originally misspoke or if you misunderstood his intentions? An argument about phrasing never has any actual merit, he clarified his position.

@Xzi You accuse him of fence sitting while moving the goal post. Your position has shifted throughout the thread, if ever so slightly, but you’ve made no mention of that besides saying that you “understand the trepidation” when it comes to government involvement in how private companies run their social media sites or communities. You can cop to that, there’s no harm in reconsidering things, that’s kind of the point of having a discussion.

It would be more productive if we talked about whether “censorship-by-proxy” is something we should be concerned about. I think I stated my opinion quite clearly, I believe it has a chilling effect of sorts. To use an analogy, it’s like having a dinner with a nice lady versus having dinner with her and her family. Most people would keep the rizz in check because mom and dad are watching, even if they’re not actually *saying* anything that would indicate imminent hostility. It’s funny how quickly people can revise the way they speak or behave depending on the circumstances, wink wink.
 
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Nah Foxi knows that I at least hold consistent positions on any given topic, even if they aren't positions he agrees with. You however I KNOW are malicious, entirely close-minded, and you also have no purpose in being here.

You are consistent as a goldfish. I disagreed with you on a point. You adjusted your point to conform to my position, then try admonishing me for it. Are you capable of being embarrassed?

@tabzer Does it *really* matter if @Xzi originally misspoke or if you misunderstood his intentions? An argument about phrasing never has any actual merit, he clarified his position.

Yes, for the same reasons that it matters when I mis-speak. "Clarification" suggests that he was within some sort of threshold of accuracy. I disagree with the assessment. His position changed.
 
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@Xzi You accuse him of fence sitting while moving the goal post, your position has shifted throughout the thread, if ever so slightly, but you’ve made no mention of that besides saying that you “understand the trepidation” when it comes to government involvement in how private companies run their social media sites or communities. You can cop to that, there’s no harm in reconsidering things, that’s kind of the point of having a discussion.
Yeah in that instance my position did shift, no shame in admitting that, but that wasn't what tabzer was quoting or responding to.
 

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Yeah in that instance my position did shift, no shame in admitting that, but that wasn't what tabzer was quoting or responding to.
Thanks for admitting it. Now, can you point out where it shifted so I can point out where you started agreeing with me?
 

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Yeah in that instance my position did shift, no shame in admitting that, but that wasn't what tabzer was quoting or responding to.
The ways of the tabzer are unknowable.
Thanks for admitting it. Now, can you point out where it shifted so I can point out where you started agreeing with me?
You should be able to locate that exact point, allow me:

Step 1: Start from the beginning
Step 2: Find the spot at which you stop disagreeing with what you’re reading
Step 3: There is no third step, we just move on from this mind-numbing molasses of “I am rubber, you are glue”
 
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It would be more productive if we talked about whether “censorship-by-proxy” is something we should be concerned about. I think I stated my opinion quite clearly, I think it has a chilling effect of sorts.
I tend to agree, my concerns lie more in the future of establishing best moderation practices when AI is pushing scamming, phishing, and general maliciousness to a whole other level. Social media giants are already letting far too much of that slip through the cracks.
 

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The ways of the tabzer are unknowable.
You should be able to locate that exact point, allow me:

Step 1: Start from the beginning
Step 2: Find the spot at which you stop disagreeing with what you’re reading
Step 3: There is no third step, we just move on from this mind numbing molasses of “I am rubber, you are glue”
If @Xzi was capable of responding like that, I'd cry. You ruined his chance. Shame on you. Shame on all of us.
 
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If @Xzi was capable of responding like that, I'd cry. You ruined his chance. Shame on you. Shame on all of us.
Oh, so I simply wasn't being direct enough? Per your preference, next time I'll be sure to respond with, "mother fucker, you KNOW what I meant, now get back on topic with yo bitch ass." Better?
 

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Oh, so I simply wasn't being direct enough? Per your preference, next time I'll be sure to respond with, "mother fucker, you KNOW what I meant, now get back on topic with yo bitch ass." Better?
It would be better if you included a point that was relevent to the topic. I never criticized your enthusiasm. I'm not praising you for being terminally online. Just to be clear.
 

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If @Xzi was capable of responding like that, I'd cry. You ruined his chance. Shame on you. Shame on all of us.
I have no shame, I only have capital gains.
Oh, so I simply wasn't being direct enough? Per your preference, next time I'll be sure to respond with, "mother fucker, you KNOW what I meant, now get back on topic with yo bitch ass." Better?
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…and then you wonder why people mistake you for a brother online.
 
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