EA employee trash-talks Wii U and 3rd party sales

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So some people at EA don't like the Wii U? Who gives a flying fuck really, they're free to dislike anything as much as they want. Their opinion of something is not fact, and should be taken for what it is - an opinion and nothing else.
 
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It seems many of you guys are sick of the EA and Nintendo is Doomed threads. I have no problem if this thread is locked, since it is quite clear both EA and Nintendo just wants everyone attention.

But hey, it would funny if Nintendo come out at EA's E3 presentation and start a super smash brawl.
 
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I know p1ngpong banned gif posts and all but...

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But it doesn't apply to the the EoF, It does apply outside of it though.
 

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"Yo Bobby, we heard ya runnin ya mouth on the intanet about tha competition. Yknow what this means right?"
"I'm sorry Boss, I didn't mean no harm no nothin! It wasn't meant ta bring ya attention!"
"We'll that's all well and good bobby, but you're a rat. And now you'll be sleepin wit da fishes."

And he was never heard from again...
EA Mafioso Represent.
 

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That is called defamation and is not protected under free speech when used against a business.
Saying that poor hardware is poor is defamation? Since when?

And the fact that the hardware alone is stronger than the XBox 360'ties doesn't mean that it reaches anything even near the peak of its performance in actual benchmarks - you don't know its factual performance, maybe the SDK's crap and cuts down on a lot of resources? Maybe the System Menu takes away a lot of processing power? There's a lot of variables in play here.
 

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Saying that poor hardware is poor is defamation? Since when?

And the fact that the hardware alone is stronger than the XBox 360'ties doesn't mean that it reaches anything even near the peak of its performance in actual benchmarks - you don't know its factual performance, maybe the SDK's crap and cuts down on a lot of resources? Maybe the System Menu takes away a lot of processing power? There's a lot of variables in play here.

I'm done here. Try to argue and bring up a case is like being in the Special Olympics. The CPU is not worse than the Xbox 360 CPU, that is factual, but like you said, the SDKs may be crap. But to call the hardware worse than last gen and to state why they should go the Sega route only makes this guy's opinion give him the image of a being dick. He just bitches and moans about third party support, weak hardware without any fact just, just a diatribe.

It's one thing to have an opinion and have resources to back up your claim, it's quite another to defame another company's console without backing it up. Saying "it's weaker than the Xbox" or "is crap" without factual evidence is stupid. He had no factual or irrefutable evidence. He's just being a sore loser he has no grounds for his arguments.

I don't know how I can refute what you said, I admit that; everyone seems to be upset for some reason and I can't figure out why, and it's saddening.
 

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I get that you represent your company both in the workplace and elsewhere, but I think this sort of reporting is going to get out of hand.

I'm sure Activision has a wonderful janitorial staff, but I can't say I'm terribly interested in hearing their thoughts on the PS4's hardware.

Honestly, it's okay to voice your opinion. There's nothing wrong with that. But when you work at a high profile games company, and you go off on twitter like a 12 year old pokemon fanboy bashing one of the biggest gaming companies ever, there's something wrong with you.

I mean hell, look what Gabe Newell did with the PS3. He completely tore that thing apart, just ripped on it to shreds. Then when the time came, he was basically forced to apologize because he was proven wrong and ultimately looked kind of dumb doing it in the first place, and I suspect the same thing will happen with EA and Nintendo.


But the biggest shocker here is, when the fuck are people who work in the game industry, going to learn to lock the damn tweets from public view? This won't sit well at all. Hell I was reading some comments from people who said they don't even have a WiiU, and even they said this guy was a bit of a dick. Iono, this guy seemed Orth to be honest, he kinda went overboard. Hell the funny thing is later he deleted his tweets. And now the guy originally linked a question to the verge (which this guy replied to) is getting all the hate and flak. Bit of a shame.
 

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Saying that poor hardware is poor is defamation? Since when?

And the fact that the hardware alone is stronger than the XBox 360'ties doesn't mean that it reaches anything even near the peak of its performance in actual benchmarks - you don't know its factual performance, maybe the SDK's crap and cuts down on a lot of resources? Maybe the System Menu takes away a lot of processing power? There's a lot of variables in play here.
The games run on the OS, so the OS is always running, but it doesn't take up a whole core or anything.
The Wii U's downsides are a rehashed CPU architecture with poor floating point (less than 15 GFLOPS) and low memory bandwidth. There's been no evidence of the GPU being weaker. It's "on par" at worst.
We deduced the main weakness back in September, you were in on that discussion.
 
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Honestly, it's okay to voice your opinion. There's nothing wrong with that. But when you work at a high profile games company, and you go off on twitter like a 12 year old pokemon fanboy bashing one of the biggest gaming companies ever, there's something wrong with you.

I mean hell, look what Gabe Newell did with the PS3. He completely tore that thing apart, just ripped on it to shreds. Then when the time came, he was basically forced to apologize because he was proven wrong and ultimately looked kind of dumb doing it in the first place, and I suspect the same thing will happen with EA and Nintendo.


But the biggest shocker here is, when the fuck are people who work in the game industry, going to learn to lock the damn tweets from public view? This won't sit well at all. Hell I was reading some comments from people who said they don't even have a WiiU, and even they said this guy was a bit of a dick. Iono, this guy seemed Orth to be honest, he kinda went overboard. Hell the funny thing is later he deleted his tweets. And now the guy originally linked a question to the verge (which this guy replied to) is getting all the hate and flak. Bit of a shame.

Exactly, if you're going to publicly denounce or riff on another company (especially if said rep works for a company that has ties to Nintendo, weak or not) and how they aren't perfect, don't be a douche about it. Why can't people be, I don't know, less of a dick about it. If he can state his hatred in such a manner, then surely, I can do the same to EA, Sony or other companies whose policies I don't agree with right? Just because I can do something doesn't mean I should.

The games run on the OS, so the OS is always running, but it doesn't take up a whole core or anything.
The Wii U's downsides are a rehashed CPU architecture with poor floating point (less than 15 GFLOPS) and low memory bandwidth. There's been no evidence of the GPU being weaker. It's "on par" at worst.
We deduced the main weakness back in September, you were in on that discussion.
That's just it, yes, compared to the PS4 and next Xbox, it's the weakest of the three, but that in no way makes it a terrible system. Why didn't people say the same thing about the PS2 back in the 2000s? It was the weakest, but what made it sell? The games. If the Wii U gets more third party support (and I've no doubt it will), then people will change their minds and shut their f***ing mouths and see that the Wii U can strive.
 

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The games run on the OS, so the OS is always running, but it doesn't take up a whole core or anything.
The Wii U's downsides are a rehashed CPU architecture with poor floating point (less than 15 GFLOPS) and low memory bandwidth. There's been no evidence of the GPU being weaker. It's "on par" at worst.
We deduced the main weakness back in September, you were in on that discussion.
I think you missed the part where this thread is no longer in the USN but in EoF and we're not being 100% serious - Wii U's flaws are pretty well-known. ;)
 

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I think you missed the part where this thread is no longer in the USN but in EoF and we're not being 100% serious - Wii U's flaws are pretty well-known. ;)

Having flaws != instant failure

I'd love to hear one console that's been released that never had any OS or hardware flaws during its lifespan.
 

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Having flaws != instant failure

I'd love to hear one console that's been released that never had any OS or hardware flaws during its lifespan.
Well the hardware isn't the problem, really. It's all about what Nintendo will do with it, and that seems to be very little at the moment. Nintendo gets hate even when they have momentum; it's just very unprofessional when it comes from within the industry.
I think E3 could be a game changer for Nintendo, it HAS to be. We're going to be able to play E3 demos at Best Buy!
 

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I think you missed the part where this thread is no longer in the USN but in EoF and we're not being 100% serious - Wii U's flaws are pretty well-known. ;)

The PS3 had flaws, so many developers hated and criticized developing because of the cell, but they got used to it. There's no reason why they can't do the same with the WiiU.
 

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The PS3 had flaws, so many developers hated and criticized developing because of the cell, but they got used to it. There's no reason why they can't do the same with the WiiU.
There's a difference between being possible, and being plausible. If you have three machines and one of them is annoying and takes months to get used to while the other two are not, you're going to want a relatively-larger return on the annoying machine in order to put up with it's shit.

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Like, how you sometimes see people with significant others that are total bastards/bitches, you know they've gotta' be gods in bed and that's the only reason the person puts up with their shit.
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