Hacking PSA - Why the jigs are a bad idea

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10&9 only for internal joycon modding, and only recommended now if you have some kind of switch attached.

By “switch” would you also mean a button or just a reed switch? I’m planning on using another joy con I have to do either a reed or a button, but I don’t know which to use lol
 

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By “switch” would you also mean a button or just a reed switch? I’m planning on using another joy con I have to do either a reed or a button, but I don’t know which to use lol
doesn't matter, both a magnetic reed switch and a toggle or pushbutton switch create a short when actuated. As far as the circuit is concerned they are equivalent.
 

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How often will you really need to use the jig though? Its only needed for a coldboot. As long as you don't let the battery die or get stuck in a system lock, the jig isn't needed.
 

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How often will you really need to use the jig though? Its only needed for a coldboot. As long as you don't let the battery die or get stuck in a system lock, the jig isn't needed.
obviously depends what you are doing I guess. I simply not sticking a steel paper clip into blind 0.5mm connector pins, every, not even once. It gives me chills, and I know exactly what I'm doing and it still terrifies me. That's all.
 
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obviously depends what you are doing I guess. I simply not sticking a steel paper clip into blind 0.5mm connector pins, every, not even once. It gives me chills, and I know exactly what I'm doing and it still terrifies me. That's all.

If it is terrifying then you prob should not be doing it.
 

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How often will you really need to use the jig though? Its only needed for a coldboot. As long as you don't let the battery die or get stuck in a system lock, the jig isn't needed.
Now that we have AutoRCM, we only need the jig once to install it. The problem is it prevents your Switch from booting or even charging without a payload that lets us go into Horizon. And the current payload that allows us to do this doesn't support sleep mode. However, once Atmosphere comes out, it'll be useful to use AutoRCM if you don't want to keep your Switch in sleep mode 24/7.
 

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Now that we have AutoRCM, we only need the jig once to install it. The problem is it prevents your Switch from booting or even charging without a payload that lets us go into Horizon. And the current payload that allows us to do this doesn't support sleep mode. However, once Atmosphere comes out, it'll be useful to use AutoRCM if you don't want to keep your Switch in sleep mode 24/7.

Well as you indicated, autoRMS has problems (it sucks). And we don't have atmosphere soo.... yeah...

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You missed MY point entirely.
I apologize, what was your point you were trying to make.

Thread point was "jigs are bad, especially paper clips and here is why, and here are the safest ways to do it."
I said "I wouldn't use a paper clip it's scary"
you said "then if it's scary don't do it (use paper clip??)"
I said "that's the point of the thread"

So I assume i misinterpreted your statement which I obviously interpreted as the above.
 

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You can also do it with the joy-con open touch the pin 10 trace on the motherboard and the other tip to the cooling fins of the switch which are grounded.

When atmosphere comes I will do that at 1st time... Then I will think if I add a permanent button on the joy-con or not...

Maybe by then they could improve something like the auto-RCM or maybe they could even release the softmod up to 4.1 since everyone is rushing releases and they will be "fighting" TX solution... I'm on 3.02.
 
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I 'soldered' my pin 9 and 10 on my joycon (By soldered I mean i added a tiny tiny blob of solder above them). Switch has worked perfectly so far. What is the risk of doing this?
 

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I think it's detectable on latest joy-con FW and a bad permanent solution that is said to cause troubles\damage after a lot of time using it, no idea... It's better that you remove the solder trace and solder a cable to pin 10+1

Now with a button even if you use 9+10 after booting you won't have them touching anymore so it's not as bad...
 

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I think it's detectable on latest joy-con FW and a bad permanent solution that is said to cause troubles\damage after a lot of time using it, no idea... It's better that you remove the solder trace and solder a cable to pin 10+1

Now with a button even if you use 9+10 after booting you won't have them touching anymore so it's not as bad...
Better, you want to go from 10 to 1 or 10 to 7, and put a resistor between them.
 

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Yep, or that, but I would go with your idea instead... soldering a magnetic switch or a physical button. I wouldn't want a full permanent short my self...

Everyone wanting a permanent solution I recommend what TheCyberQuake did:

- https://gbatemp.net/threads/f-g-joycon-mod-magnethax-switch-edition.502459/

Just use pin 10+7 or 10+1 instead of 10+9 for the best results.
 
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Yep, or that, but I would go with your idea instead soldering a magnetic switch instead or a physical button, I wouldn't want a full permanent short my self...
Especially if nintendo finds a way to poll the "home button" being constantly pressed and starts handing out bans.
Not likely, but better safe than sorry.
 
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