Their ending would probably be even darker. Like not being able to get a good job anywhere else because of that shared picture.Wow...i gotta say that's among the best compliments i ever got for my writings. Thanks a lot!
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Disney fires ‘Guardians of the Galaxy’ director over tweets about pedophilia & rape
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Glad the OP got banned. This was less about pedo comments and more about him singlehandedly painting it as such for flames. The director's comments? They seem very crasse and vulgar. I can understand why he'd get dropped over that. But I don't see him condoning pedophilia, just being very vulgar with his jokes. I could agree that this crosses the line for publicly acceptable. Just not that it's truly condoning anything. I too have friends with whom I make and take back jokes of similar and sometimes worse proportions. But we wouldn't broadcast them proudly.
The thing that redeems him (Gunn) in my eyes is that he's very publicly apologized and made it very clear that he recognizes that the tweets were awful and that he's a very different person now than he was when he made them. I firmly believe that if a person is trying to be better than they were previously, we shouldn't dredge up their past to use against them. Anyone who does usually has an agenda against them that goes deeper than the issue presented
Hey guys, they're not okay tweets, but people make jokes like this, and I mean reading his tweets, I would not read them and go PEDOPHILE RAPIST! I'd say eh, that's a weird guy.
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Knowing of James Gunn's Troma beginnings (he wrote Tromeo & Juliet), the stuff said in those tweets would fit nicely in Troma movies, so I got what he was trying to do. That, plus the fact they're ancient tweets make for a strong case against his firing. It probably would've been avoided if he deleted those tweets a long time ago, and that fucker from The Daily Caller didn't have it out for him.
Of course the SJW from gbatemp will defend pedophiles...
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Then you support pedophilia...
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Then you support pedophilia...
Now that is an extreme jump in logic and completely taking my post out of context. I said nothing of the like nor would I ever say something along those lines. I pointed out that they were jokes, which is what they are. They are jokes with a poor taste, but that doesn't mean he's a pedophile nor a rapist and pointing this out doesn't mean I support pedophiles.
No one is defending pedophiles, they are pointing out that these tweets we're poorly thought out jokes.
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Steven Spielberg is Weeaboo trashHmm...too bad he's banned. I was really curious which "behaviour/sick ideology" he meant: sending out seemingly drunk tweets with offensive content, or it becoming okay to dig through someone's online profile to come up with dirt that was said multiple years ago, ignoring and/or removing any context in which it was said and presented with a new context of "look at how perverse this guy is" ?
Seriously...this whole #metoo stuff is getting out of hand. Is this how the average career will look like from now on?
Board of directors: ah...thanks for coming. Steven...I think we've got a problem.
Steven (Spielberg): oh...what'll that be?
Board: well...let's start with that we love your work and that your last picture is a masterpiece, so.
Steven: yeah, yeah, yeah...what's the problem.
Board: well...I don't know how to say this, but...we've received word from a completely anonymous and therefore totally reliable source that...erm...
Steven: ...yes?
Board: ...that you've *ahem* apparently wet your pants in public.
Steven: WHAT????
Board: Steven...please be calm. We're still investigating how this information will impact your work on the latest movie, so...
Steven: what's that supposed to mean? My work was done last Tuesday? But what the hell kind of a bullshit story is this?
Boardmember: *quietly and worriedly slides a closed booklet over the table*
Steven:...is this some kind of joke?
Board: ...but this IS you, isn't it?
Steven: I WAS THREE IN THAT PICTURE!
Board: yes...but unfortunately, that doesn't change the fact that, ahem, this new information impacts the reputation of the studio, Steven.
Steven: this "new information" is over fifty years old and totally irrelevant!
Board: unfortunately, that's not the case. Steven...if this picture goes viral, our next movie will flop. All it takes is one person to come up with, say, "Steven Pissberg", and it's over. Nobody will want to see the movie. People will stay away in droves.
Steven: ...because someone dug up a picture from YEARS ago?
Board: yes. I know you put your heart and soul into this, but we can't risk bringing it out with your name.
Steven: what??? I've worked nearly a year on this!
Board: don't worry. You're still getting paid the same. It's just...we would like it if, well...it was the name of your assistant instead of you. That way we don't take risks.
Steven: what? You want Charles's name instead of mine on that thing? People don't even know him!
Board: erm...no. Sorry. Charles got a speeding ticket in 2006. It won't clash well with the theme of "responsible parenting" that the movie has. It...ahem...we were thinking of Kathy.
Steven: Kathy? Kathy Ingstar? All she did on the movie was suggest the font of the ending credits!
Board: yes...but she has an impeccable track record on the media.
Steven: but...she never DOES anything! Just about every task I give her, she delegates to others!
Board: exactly what I said: she has never done anything, so she has never done anything wrong!
The real Black Mirror would be that everyone in the Future is so of scared showing their face in public and having past events used against them, that everyone wears masks. So you can never see peoples identities. Every single person is covered in a mask.
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People jump onto the notion of blaming "SJWs" because they are just lazy. Seriously, "SJWs" are just an easy target for people who can't be bothered to think beyond their own little box. It's easy to blame "SJWs" because attempting to argue with people about this suddenly makes you an "SJW" and suddenly you "support *blank.*" It's just an easy strawman argument.
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That's low man. Very low. You know exactly what she meant.
The issue of what is okay and what is not okay in the public sphere is an issue of ongoing and transforming standards as well as variance in social acceptability by circle and even by the mood of the people involved. I can see rape as being too far. But for those who wish so, SATIRE also exists(think South Park) AT their OWN DISCRETION to consume. The guy was also a very public person with a wide audience, many of which children who love the MCU and their parents and I can understand his layoff.
If that's what you want to read into the posts, then that conclusion is what you make of it. It doesn't reflect reality or any intentions of anyone here, though.
I think you jumped the Gunn in your decision making...
If anything, this brought more attention to it. I wouldn't know about these tweets, if it wasn't for the outrage.
That said I'm not really worried about GOTG. Disney and Marvel appear to have the entire MCU under a very good formula and there's many different people working on them, the talent is there if they need to replace one man, even if the position is a high one.
*checks card*
Fucking bingo.
*game winning music plays*
I think in the last 6 months I have now been accused of being every shade and flavour of politico there is by people that think it is a useful way to conduct an argument.
I may have epically lost the troll review contest, never got my own hate thread and rarely even get flamed these days but I knew I could win something.
See I think that is a bad thing. First I would say there is nothing to apologise for, second outrage culture thrives on that stuff so "defiant to the end" is the best choice really. If he has changed and wishes to convey such a thing then so be it but I see no wrongdoing in the first place.
lift your hand if you ever made a dead baby joke and if you think that poor taste joke should get you fired.
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It's not even that they were jokes. It's that it's just not who he is anymore. If he had made those tweets yesterday I'd be advocating for his firing right alongside all the right-wing media outlets, but these tweets are 10 years old
True true, I was just keeping in context with my first reaction upon seeing these tweet, which is to say that I saw them as poorly thought out jokes. Of course adding the context of age and personal growth, these tweets very clearly don't reflect who he is nowadays. It's honestly unfair to punish him for something he said so many years ago and has so clearly moved past. I would agree that if he made them yesterday I would actually be rather upset. At the same time I would still actually hold to my notion that they are just poorly made jokes. I would however still support Disney for firing him because he is a Disney representative and his comments can reflect poorly on Disney, that's just the nature of being representative.
>MUH SJOOZ
it's jews and sjws with you. Do you ever cry about anything that's actually relevant?
Anyways, more relevant to the topic, full stop, the guy should not have been fired. He had already apologized for the tweets several years ago. Disney KNOWINGLY hired him knowing these existed, because he publicly apologized for them. The only reason he was fired was because the Mouse operates for one thing and one thing only: MONEY. The negative PR that rose from this (solely because dumb fucks like Cernovich and other alt-right limpdicks cried about it) is the only reason they fired him.
Look, the tweets were bad, but he hasn't made anything like them since. It says a lot when the only thing people have to go on regarding this nonsensical outrage is shit from like 2009. Shit that's almost 10 years old. A lot can happen in one year, a shitton more happens in a decade. The only people offended by this shit he came back to say was wrong and never repeated are dumb internet larpers from certain alt-right hugboxes like 4chan and 8chan, or people who just want to fan the flames.
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Plus let me add to this further: I ask of literally everyone who advocates for his firing over these tweets, not just people here if they exist but this is open to literally anyone reading this now:
Do you remember, and firmly stand by, every single thing you've ever said 10 years ago? Have you never, in those 10 years, said anything you regret?
If you can't answer yes to this, you shouldn't advocate for his firing.
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