Gaming Downgrade of Bravely Default 2

[FearTheIdol]

Somebody could explain me ?

Bravely default

Bravely default 2

wtf

 

[Pippin666]

Care to explain more your childish rant ?

Pip'

 

[gabisenk]

what is there to explain? both look as childish but i think the 2nd is an upgrade in my oppinion

 

[linuxares]

They look the same but more detailed on the Switch?

 

[gabisenk]

They look the same but more detailed on the Switch?

Yes, that is what I said basically

 

[linuxares]

Yes, that is what I said basically

aye, answered OP.
Would I like a fully animated and modeled Bravely Default? Oh hell yes. But even I realize they went with this because of artstyle.
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Bravely_Second:_End_Layer?file=BS_Cast.png (I mean... look at Magnolia... )

 

[logandzwon]

OP is silly. Personally, I adore the animation style of the Bravely series.

 

[masagrator]

Somebody could explain me ?

Bravely default

Bravely default 2

wtf

Bravely Default: simple models and postprocess effects, 3D background made of 2D layers
Bravely Default 2: Simple models with more details, many more complex postprocess effects, full 3D background imitating 2D layers

Inevitably downgrade.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

aye, answered OP.
Would I like a fully animated and modeled Bravely Default? Oh hell yes. But even I realize they went with this because of artstyle.
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Bravely_Second:_End_Layer?file=BS_Cast.png (I mean... look at Magnolia... )

Some might call it an art style, a realist such as myself might call it cheap. It's obvious to me that Squeenix aren't putting effort into making the series something really great, they're content just having a passable JRPG with well designed mechanics and some good music, but kind of lacking in other areas. They just don't want to put money into an AAA JRPG these days and this is the closest we can get. Final Fantasy can hardly even be called JRPG anymore with all the americanization the series has gone through.

 

[gabisenk]

Some might call it an art style, a realist such as myself might call it cheap. It's obvious to me that Squeenix aren't putting effort into making the series something really great, they're content just having a passable JRPG with well designed mechanics and some good music, but kind of lacking in other areas. They just don't want to put money into an AAA JRPG these days and this is the closest we can get. Final Fantasy can hardly even be called JRPG anymore with all the americanization the series has gone through.

Yeah. That is true. But what can we do? Asking for ffvii remake with turn based combat was waaaaaaaaaaaay too much to ask.....

 

[logandzwon]

Some might call it an art style, a realist such as myself might call it cheap. It's obvious to me that Squeenix aren't putting effort into making the series something really great, they're content just having a passable JRPG with well designed mechanics and some good music, but kind of lacking in other areas. They just don't want to put money into an AAA JRPG these days and this is the closest we can get. Final Fantasy can hardly even be called JRPG anymore with all the americanization the series has gone through.

Personally, what draws me to Bravely Default IS the "cheap" style. Maybe it is because I grew up when Final Fantasy IV was sold as Final Fantasy II, but it is the first JRPG I've really enjoyed enough to play through since FF7.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Personally, what draws me to Bravely Default IS the "cheap" style. Maybe it is because I grew up when Final Fantasy IV was sold as Final Fantasy II, but it is the first JRPG I've really enjoyed enough to play through since FF7.

I don't mind the art style too much, but there's more to it than that. It has that handheld game feel about it, where it's a dumbed down, simplified, and less good version of what it would be if it was made for a home console instead. You see it a lot, even within the same franchise the handheld games are more simplified and cheaply made. And that doesn't need to be the case. Especially not on the Switch which has many home console-type games already out for it.

 

[Rahkeesh]

As far as I can tell DQ XI did not do that amazingly outside of Asia (and probably Japan). You're never getting Final Fantasy budgets for turn based JRPGs again.

I dunno if you consider Octopath and Trials of Mana "handheld" games but that's probably even less than the kind of budget going on here.

 

[jesterscourt]

I fully intended going into this thread that it would be about how there is a Bravely Default 2 when there was already a Bravely Second. But instead it's a discussion of the visual style. I like the stylistic choice they went with for the first game and are upgrading it versus making it look like another post FF12 cutscene.

 

[FearTheIdol]

I fully intended going into this thread that it would be about how there is a Bravely Default 2 when there was already a Bravely Second. But instead it's a discussion of the visual style. I like the stylistic choice they went with for the first game and are upgrading it versus making it look like another post FF12 cutscene.

you are strange, the first game was beautiful even with the bad resolution from the 3DS
whereas for this game, it looks just bad, the 3D models are terrible, the artworks are worse, uninspired, ridiculous, where is the artist from the first game ? it's really terrible
+ the story does not looks better than the first
+ I feel we'll get a cheap bad gameplay

 

[Jayinem81]

Seems a no-brainer they should port the other two Bravely Defauls to Switch. But now they probably heard Citra is coming to Retroarch Switch so they'll just let m4xw handle it.

 

[1stmoon]

you are strange, the first game was beautiful even with the bad resolution from the 3DS
whereas for this game, it looks just bad, the 3D models are terrible, the artworks are worse, uninspired, ridiculous, where is the artist from the first game ? it's really terrible
+ the story does not looks better than the first
+ I feel we'll get a cheap bad gameplay

Played through 2's demo and i don't know how you came to this conclusion if you're a fan of the series; 2 is basically just BD with higher production values.

 

[FearTheIdol]

Played through 2's demo and i don't know how you came to this conclusion if you're a fan of the series; 2 is basically just BD with higher production values.

It's because i'm a fan of bravelt default than i say that, i think that YOU're not the big fan to say something like that
But you can go on to pretend to be one and be happy to have such a ridiculous sequel
The switch sell like a ps4 but that's only what square enix allow to do with bravely default ? wtf
And i'm sure than square will port this game on other plateform, so they have really NO excuse

 

[FGFlann]

It does look bad but not because of the art style. The field is constantly hazy, everything looks like it's desperately in need of a sharpen filter. Certain locations are absolutely hideous, such as the ruins; Spartan environment with bad textures. It could be so much better than this.

 

[FearTheIdol]

It does look bad but not because of the art style. The field is constantly hazy, everything looks like it's desperately in need of a sharpen filter. Certain locations are absolutely hideous, such as the ruins; Spartan environment with bad textures. It could be so much better than this.

I agree but the characters models are hideous, the original 2D charach design is not incredible either so nothing went all for this sequel