Austria first country to make Covid vaccine mandatory

[subcon959]

Another funny Austrian Vaccination Story:

As maybe some of you know,Austria has many Workers in Hungary,the so called "Pendler" (Commuters).
Many of them got their 3 Doses correctly (with the mandatory breaks) in Hungary (AstraZeneca).Also they have the Charge IDs/Numbers from their Shots.Also the international (EU) Vaccination Documents.

Since the Treatment took place abroad,he regularly receives reminders to get vaccinated,in Austria he is officially still “unvaccinated”.

You have to go to an Austrian Doctor, only this Doctor makes the "official" entry (but the Doctor doesn't HAVE to do that if he doesn't want to ...)

Same for People working in Russia and that Countries,they have the other "Problem" that Sputnik/Sinovac are still not "accepted" in Austria....from the Doctors....I think....or so....

By the Way,we have an (half) Austrian Vaccine on the Way (VALNEVA) but getting first Priority to get NOVAVAX first......
No,it has absolutely surely nothing to do with Money,no...I am pretty sure....

As you maybe see,in Austria (and also thanks to the EU,a very nice Club...) many,many,many "bureaucratic" Things are not so "well" working.....

Easy way to fix all the confusion with documents is to create a microchip implant...

 

[subcon959]

my doctor was pretty up front about the vaccine's possible side effects when I got it. Heck, just today, my son got his second jab, and they went over possible side effects and what to look out for prior to the injection

I'm all for one-to-one consultations with actual doctors and being able to ask questions. It wouldn't really be ethical for them to advise one way or another but they could at least provide some information to help most parents make an informed decision. But that doesn't apply to the situation I was talking about with mass vaccinations here at school.

Btw, I was searching the VAERS database earlier and there are an awful lot of reports on there for this. Unfortunately, they don't tell you which ones are from actual health professionals as opposed to regular people so it's difficult to know how useful that information is.

 

[MadonnaProject]

Personally, I'd say I'm pro-government action when it comes to public health and safety, like how if a sewer line were broken I'd call the city. It is kinda the function of government to impose law and standards so that we don't have crazy people lynching everybody they don't like or streaking across school playgrounds. Also, we're totally having a leftist orgy in your brain, sorry you can't unsee it.


I suppose I was a bit too generous assuming you'd take my question in good faith. You actually did reply by calling yourself evil by proxy. Do with that what you will, comrade. I just enjoy watching you be wrong and silly... which is often.

Do you know what else the Nazis used to think? That the sky was blue and that breathing was essential to their continued existence. Thanks for playing, please stop using this kind of perverse rhetoric to spread useless opinions.

Lets play something else, and see if you can follow along. We all would like to enjoy the freedom of eating in restaurants and going to movies without masks AND without possibly getting an illness that can lead to death. To promote this, we ask that people take a vaccine that is offered freely and rapidly in this country. Due to a targeted propaganda campaign by a party that promotes the status quo, many people are fed misinformation and refuse to volunteer for the vaccine AND refuse to quarantine or take safety precautions. Should the population at large suffer due to the selfish acts of the misinformed? Are the unobtrusive vaccinations a step too far for the freedoms of everyone to be restored safely?

Now, I'm willing to wager that, like several people in this thread, you'd say yes because my body my choice, but... well, for the greater good, I'm happy to say I don't care about your bodily autonomy if it can hurt or kill me or/and my loved ones and countrymen in tandem with irresponsible behavior. A cop can arrest an arsonist, so by all means, they should be able to arrest a bio-terrorist.


Sadly, this is a political topic that drags in a lot of other baggage. Comparisons get made, other factors get brought up, and the right wing viewpoints are 95% dead wrong. Sucks, but so it goes.


Congratulations, you were fortunate. Nobody likes to gamble on their health, however, and a vaccine will still do you good even after catching the virus.


For gods sake, please link your sources. Also, you missed the bit about how many cases per million there were of issues. Don't worry, I've got you covered. It sounds a lot less scary when you hear it is less than a percent of a percent chance, and for the record... I heard the warnings when I got my shot, as did my son.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiF5dPSreT0AhVXCTQIHS-cDUIQFnoECAkQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fda.gov%2Fmedia%2F154406%2Fdownload&usg=AOvVaw0F7O0pHKZvfqnjBjgViBWa

"Myocarditis reporting rates were 40.6 cases per million second doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines administered to males aged 12-29 years and 2.4 per million second doses administered to males aged ≥30 years; reporting rates among females in these age groups were 4.2 and 1.0 per million second doses, respectively. The highest reporting rates were among males aged 12-17 years and those aged 18-24 years (62.8 and 50.5 reported myocarditis cases per million second doses of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine administered, respectively)."

Read upto the bit where you started saying sh*t like "Let's play something else". I suddenly realised "this is some sassy, entitled, female", and naturally, as if automatically I chose to deal with you as one ought to with any sassy female (or male). I ignored everything else you said because the way you speak makes any point irrelevant.

P.s: I'm not playing. Bark down to your cats instead.

 

[MadonnaProject]

You've just described every society and every religion.

The nazi's were mostly known for extinguishing people they thought were inferior, rather than imposing opinions. It seems like you mentioned nazi's as some kind of "winning move" more than making a valid comparison.

I have travelled most of Asia, quite a lot of USA and South America, most of the middle east also.

I can categorically educate you that MOST countries and cultures do NOT exhibit such behaviour. This is a cancer afflicting the western societies, and certain sort of individuals in those societies.

A conversation is not about winning, its sharing of opinions. Opinions can differ. Its quite tragic that you probably don't know this.

 

[Dakitten]

Read upto the bit where you started saying sh*t like "Let's play something else". I suddenly realised "this is some sassy, entitled, female", and naturally, as if automatically I chose to deal with you as one ought to with any sassy female (or male). I ignored everything else you said because the way you speak makes any point irrelevant.

P.s: I'm not playing. Bark down to your cats instead.

I could say the same of you and "You know who else believes in x? Nazis!" You're my favorite kind of trash~

I'm all for one-to-one consultations with actual doctors and being able to ask questions. It wouldn't really be ethical for them to advise one way or another but they could at least provide some information to help most parents make an informed decision. But that doesn't apply to the situation I was talking about with mass vaccinations here at school.

Btw, I was searching the VAERS database earlier and there are an awful lot of reports on there for this. Unfortunately, they don't tell you which ones are from actual health professionals as opposed to regular people so it's difficult to know how useful that information is.

It is a troubled time, and getting a chance to have a one-on-one with a doctor can be tough, but nothing worth doing ever seems to be easy. As for the VAERS database, you kinda hit the nail on the head. Don't jump to conclusions before something gets thoroughly studied and peer reviewed.

 

[MadonnaProject]

I could say the same of you and "You know who else believes in x? Nazis!" You're my favorite kind of trash~


It is a troubled time, and getting a chance to have a one-on-one with a doctor can be tough, but nothing worth doing ever seems to be easy. As for the VAERS database, you kinda hit the nail on the head. Don't jump to conclusions before something gets thoroughly studied and peer reviewed.

At least I am your favourite. You don't even matter enough in my reality to qualify as trash, that would be lending your existence some value.

 

[AlexMCS]

People, please don't be disrespectful while disagreeing... I'd say both sides should try to exert more empathy.
Even if I don't agree on this matter with Lacius, Dakitten et al, I wouldn't attack them as people for their views, that's petty.

As for the topic itself, any news on other countries following that "Vaccine Mandate" logic?

 

[Alexander1970]

Next "mandatory" Standard for Austria:

3G "Rule" at Work stays after Mandatory Vaccination in February 2022.

3G:

G eimpft (vaccinated)
G enesen (recovered)
G etested (tested)

So,what´s next "mandatory" Thing ?

Also,before the "surprisly" Covid Wave (Omicron) in Austria,if infected,Government wants longer Isolition Time (14 Days) and for K1 (Contact 1) Persons a FFP2 Mask INDOOR at HOME......maybe....

But,of course,not for Vaccinated People,they can,of course,get "Freitesten - Freetested" if the first PCR Test after the Infection is negative....not for unvaccinated People......of course....

Of Course,next Lockdown is coming after Christmas (I hope,the Virus is wating so long....)

Oh damn,I forget,unvaccinated People are already STILL in Lockdown...err....so hard......

 

[smf]

I have travelled most of Asia, quite a lot of USA and South America, most of the middle east also.

I can categorically educate you that MOST countries and cultures do NOT exhibit such behaviour. This is a cancer afflicting the western societies, and certain sort of individuals in those societies.

A conversation is not about winning, its sharing of opinions. Opinions can differ. Its quite tragic that you probably don't know this.

Well it seems you do think it's about winning.

You try to put yourself forward as some kind of expert to shut down conversation.

You tried to compare people to nazi's to shut down conversation, but just succeeded in trivializing nazi's.

Someone who was just sharing opinions wouldn't act the way you do.

Each society and religion have ideas that they impose on people, or punish them if they don't follow them. All of the countries you visited have different things they impose, I'm surprised you didn't come across any of them.

 

[smf]

So,what´s next "mandatory" Thing ?

Whatever is deemed necessary, one thing for certain is that we can't just choose to live outside the pandemic.

 

[smf]

Btw, I was searching the VAERS database earlier and there are an awful lot of reports on there for this.

There are a lot of reports because a lot of people have been vaccinated.

VAERS doesn't distinguish between people who have had a reaction to the vaccine and those who have had an unrelated health condition after being vaccinated.

It's essentially worthless information to you. Just believing that searching the VAERS database is worthwhile is enough to invalidate any conclusion.

 

[ieatpixels]

doublepost

 

[ieatpixels]

Human rights violation by the country that brought you the holocaust. It shows they haven't really changed.

I agree in medical freedom.

But during a pandemic, if I come across someone who says they have done their own research or they know their own body and don't need a vaccine or mask then I also agree in freedom to make sure they don't come anywhere near me as they are obviously not capable of looking after themselves let alone be considerate to me.

People who claim to be so medically vulnerable that they can't wear a mask or be vaccinated, can't even see the irony.

My friend got covid bad recently from one of these geniuses.


No, otherwise we wouldn't have laws to protect innocent people from people committing crimes.

Freedom comes with limits.

So you're afraid of the virus even if you've had the vaccine.
Please realise, vaccinated can and do still spread the virus. If anything, they're more likely to because they don't show symptoms, it goes undetected with them.
The vax can cause harm.
None of this is freedom, you're talking about the opposite of freedom.

 

[Lacius]

Human rights violation by the country that brought you the holocaust. It shows they haven't really changed.

So you're afraid of the virus even if you've had the vaccine.
Please realise, vaccinated can and do still spread the virus. If anything, they're more likely to because they don't show symptoms, it goes undetected with them.
The vax can cause harm.
None of this is freedom, you're talking about the opposite of freedom.

A vaccinated person is less likely to spread the virus because they are less likely to contract the virus in the first place.

If you care about not contracting the virus, not spreading the virus, not being hospitalized by the virus, and not dying from the virus, vaccination is the single best thing you can do.

 

[Alexander1970]

we can't just choose to live outside the pandemic.

The Opposite is possible.....Learn to live with it and accept it.
The Pandemic is never over,if some "People with Decision Power" won´t let it end......

 

[Lacius]

The Opposite is possible.....Learn to live with it and accept it.
The Pandemic is never over,if some "People with Decision Power" won´t let it end......

The pandemic would largely be over by now if everybody would have or could have gotten vaccinated.

 

[Alexander1970]

The pandemic would largely be over by now if everybody would have or could have gotten vaccinated.

Please,excuse my emotional Eruption,my Friend.....
Of course,you are right.

 

[subcon959]

The pandemic would largely be over by now if everybody would have or could have gotten vaccinated.

You have zero evidence of this.

 

[Lacius]

You have zero evidence of this.

We have ample evidence with regard to the efficacy of the vaccines and how herd immunity works.

An example of something we don't have evidence for is the claim that kids are somehow at greater risk for rare vaccine side effects than they are at risk of dying from COVID-19, a claim you made recently. 535 American children between the ages of 5-18 have died from COVID-19, while I struggled to find a single example of a child in that age range dying of a COVID-19 vaccine.

I'm sorry if that came out of nowhere, but I wanted to be clear that nobody should take you or your posts at all seriously. I'd consider you a joke if it weren't so unfunny.

 

[subcon959]

We have ample evidence with regard to the efficacy of the vaccines and how herd immunity works.

An example of something we don't have evidence for is the claim that kids are somehow at greater risk for rare vaccine side effects than they are at risk of dying from COVID-19, a claim you made recently. 535 American children between the ages of 5-18 have died from COVID-19, while I struggled to find a single example of a child in that age range dying of a COVID-19 vaccine.

I'm sorry if that came out of nowhere, but I wanted to be clear that nobody should take you or your posts at all seriously. I'd consider you a joke if it weren't so unfunny.

Weird, I thought we were talking about your claim not mine but I guess it makes sense since you can't back up what you said.

You are nothing but a corporate drone and propagandist @Lacius. I'm pretty much done with extending you any courtesies not to mention get absolutely no value from any discourse with you. I won't be replying to any of your posts from now on so consider that a Christmas gift from me to you.