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Sorry for not trusting someone from China as a credible source on eastern European matters. I prefer proper news sources.
I am actually a Jew. Have you always been antisemitic?
Also why would I check a German newspaper for Brazilians?
Also it runs outdated software. I will remove the URL in this case for safety of our users. We normally don't do this but that site seems to be a virus host, waiting to happen.
The source was the German newspaper called Handelsblatt. I hope at least the raw text does not constitute a security risk.
"Kein Kranz für die Opfer von Odessa
Steinmeier verzichtet auf Beileidsbekundung und hofft auf nationalen Dialog in der Ukraine"
 

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If you cut the water supply to a region, I´d call it targeting civilians. Wouldn´t you?
The people who died in the Odessa building fire were murdered. They were stopped from leaving. I remember some who made it out and were beaten and kicked in the head by a crowd. The "activists" were laughing as people burnt alive. You can call them activists but it just reveals your bias. Compared to the American Jan6 freedom fighters (see how I can play this game too?), the Ukrainian "activists" are Nazis... oh wait, they actually are (as can be found in the link I just posted: strg+F "Hitlergruß").
Uhm... you know the president of Ukraine is a Jew right?

I am actually a Jew. Have you always been antisemitic?

The source was the German newspaper called Handelsblatt. I hope at least the raw text does not constitute a security risk.
"Kein Kranz für die Opfer von Odessa
Steinmeier verzichtet auf Beileidsbekundung und hofft auf nationalen Dialog in der Ukraine"
Uhm yes? The software is still out of date, like seriously out of date. It's a risk for anyone to visit that site.
 

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If you cut the water supply to a region, I´d call it targeting civilians. Wouldn´t you?
The people who died in the Odessa building fire were murdered. They were stopped from leaving. I remember some who made it out and were beaten and kicked in the head by a crowd. The "activists" were laughing as people burnt alive. You can call them activists but it just reveals your bias. Compared to the American Jan6 freedom fighters (see how I can play this game too?), the Ukrainian "activists" are Nazis... oh wait, they actually are (as can be found in the link I just posted: strg+F "Hitlergruß").
So you steal land and the last owner still has to play for the water bill? No, I don't call that targeting civilians.

And playing what game? Where did you see me engaging in whataboutism? And for the love of god, the level of ridiculousness in calling American insurrectionists freedom fighters and comparing them to the Ukrainian activists. If you want to draw a paralel, the American insurrectionists would be in line with eastern-ukranian Russian backed insurrectionists. Both insurrectionists, both Russian backed in their own ways.
 

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What are "all sources"? I have only posted that German-Brazilian site. Do you know the concept of plural?
The raw text is of Handelsblatt, a well-known economy newspaper. How is the raw text a security threat?
 

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What are "all sources"? I have only posted that German-Brazilian site. Do you know the concept of plural?
The raw text is of Handelsblatt, a well-known economy newspaper. How is the raw text a security threat?
So wait, I ask you for as source, for a burning building and you link me a Economical newspaper that is run by some Chinese person doing CCP's business?

EDIT: Dude, it doesn't even have HTTPS. It's a very unsecure site.

https://archive.is/XM8wk - for those who wanna read it.


EDIT2: After looking up more about the site.
He is a full on nutjob that used to have the site. It's not a legit news source. It's a blog.
 
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while people are dying Panda here is crying about orange man and the conservatives
Wow nice deflection … you always run away when poeple point out the garbage your spew
The Hypocrisy of your "under the Bridge" life Is fascinating
monday- AMERICAN NEEDS TO BUTT OUT
If the people in those parts want to be Russian is not the USA business

Today -AMERICANS Fault for not butting in
Says the

Says the Shill defending stupidity that led to this. man, I guess Kamala's master moves did not help i guess tweeting Putin did not help. Putin is hours away from the capital as Ukrain say they were abandoned.
.You are a walking contradiction.
Thing I have yet to find out is if your a paid Russian shill or just one that wants to see the world burn?
 
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If you assume I just make up stories, there is no basis for a discussion.
I found another link. You can only access the headline for free. It reads: German foral wreath for Odessa remains its suitcase. There is a picture of the German president (Foreign Minister that the time)
https://www.schwaebische.de/ueberre...-odessa-bleibt-im-gepaeck-_arid,10011628.html
What’s your point? Articles of horrible crimes ?
Your deflecting for the War Crimes being committed by Putins dogs
Here’s the same thing in china

Police in China arrest man carrying bloodstained luggage containing the dead body of a woman

 

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What’s your point? Articles of horrible crimes ?
My point is this: Ukraine is not a democracy. It does not share Western values except the hatred for Russia. Its corrupt government has let radical elements free reign in attacking peaceful cities in the Eastern Ukraine for 8 years. If there should be self-determination for Chechnya, Tibet, Xinjiang, why not for Donetsk and Lugansk? The Ukrainian government has always denied those regions autonomy while remaining part of Ukraine. The simple truth is the West has no ethics, just interests. Namely to cut Russia and China to pieces. It will look the other way, even if it means supporting actual Nazis or radical Islamists. The whole Western world has accepted that Ukraine is to Russia what Cuba is to the US. Otherwise their would be weapons and soldiers coming in. If you want to fight for THE Ukraine, go ahead and book a flight to Poland.
 

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Nobody is so nice try
calling Joe an incompetent does not mean praising putting nice try

Orange man:
Former President Donald Trump on Tuesday praised Russian President Vladimir Putin's decision to send Russian troops into Ukraine to support Russian-backed separatists in the Luhansk and Donetsk provinces. In an appearance on the right-wing talk radio program "the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show," Trump broke his conspicuous silence on the crisis to applaud the Russian dictator.

"This is genius," he said of Putin's decision on Monday to officially recognize the breakaway provinces and authorize the use of Russian military personnel to assist them. "So Putin is now saying it’s independent — a large section of Ukraine. I said, how smart is that? And he’s gonna go in and be a peacekeeper. We could use that on our southern border. That’s the strongest peace force I’ve ever seen. There were more army tanks than I’ve ever seen. They’re gonna keep peace, all right."

Trump is a long-standing fan of Putin's. In 2013, he wondered on Twitter if the Russian autocrat would attend his Miss Universe pageant in Moscow and whether the two would become "best friends." Putin did not show up. In the following years, Trump repeatedly spoke highly of Putin's strategic acumen, noted the strongman's intention to "re-build the Russian Empire" and defended Putin's habit of killing dissidents and journalists, arguing that the United States does the same thing.
It is unclear exactly what Trump would like the U.S. military to do on the southern U.S. border.

Trump went on to heap more praise on Putin and to claim that Russia would have been less aggressive if he were still in the White House.

"No, but think of it," the former president continued. "Here’s a guy who’s very savvy. I know him very well — very, very well. By the way, this never would have happened with us. Had I been in office, not even thinkable. This would never have happened. But here’s a guy that says, 'You know, I’m gonna declare a big portion of Ukraine independent.' He used the word 'independent.' 'And we’re gonna go out, and we’re gonna in, and we’re gonna help keep peace.'”

Other conservatives:

Is this a common sentiment in the US or is it fringe?




While mouthpieces white wash Putin:
Mr. Carlson has taken an isolationist approach in the lead-up to the invasion. On Tuesday night, he asserted that Democrats believed Americans had a “patriotic duty to hate Vladimir Putin,” but questioned why the Russian president had been vilified.
“It might be worth asking yourself, since it is getting pretty serious: What is this really about? Why do I hate Putin so much?” Mr. Carlson said. He added, “Has he shipped every middle class job in my town to Russia?” He also argued that Ukraine was not a democracy.
“But Joe Biden likes Ukraine, so Putin bad, war good,” Mr. Carlson said.
 

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My point is this: Ukraine is not a democracy. It does not share Western values except the hatred for Russia. Its corrupt government has let radical elements free reign in attacking peaceful cities in the Eastern Ukraine for 8 years. If there should be self-determination for Chechnya, Tibet, Xinjiang, why not for Donetsk and Lugansk? The Ukrainian government has always denied those regions autonomy while remaining part of Ukraine. The simple truth is the West has no ethics, just interests. Namely to cut Russia and China to pieces. It will look the other way, even if it means supporting actual Nazis or radical Islamists. The whole Western world has accepted that Ukraine is to Russia what Cuba is to the US. Otherwise their would be weapons and soldiers coming in. If you want to fight for THE Ukraine, go ahead and book a flight to Poland.
Non of what you said is reality
The fact that Ukraine elected a President that refused to bow to Putin is the problem

Eastern Ukraine has been under-control by Russian rebels. So any death are at the hands of the rebels not Ukraine
This is because Putin ego of being the worst Russian president that has tanked Russian economy and think taking power by force is the only option

Youre a joke of a troll.
 

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Nobody is so nice try
calling Joe an incompetent does not mean praising putting nice try
Lol for someone who cries when People make fun of the Formal Defeated guy. You sure want to blame the rightly elected President for Putins ego war
 
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Non of what you said is reality
The fact that Ukraine elected a President that refused to bow to Putin is the problem

Eastern Ukraine has been under-control by Russian rebels. So any death are at the hands of the rebels not Ukraine
This is because Putin ego of being the worst Russian president that has tanked Russian economy and think taking power by force is the only option

Youre a joke of a troll.

Not to mention that is Russia who has the history of either imprisoned or poison and murder political oponents, not to mention media being State controlled and election counts being suspectefly tampered. All of this through the same president.

Also regarding Chechnya self-determination, 'member the time Russia squashed a rightful independentista group and replaced it with a puppet government? I 'member.
 
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at this point ignore the anti-conservative shills to blind to call out the BS

In other news very brave of Zelensky to stay really shows Ukraine is committed even after it was abandoned by the wester powers. also Poland has been helping them alot
 

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at this point ignore the anti-conservative shills to blind to call out the BS

In other news very brave of Zelensky to stay really shows Ukraine is committed even after it was abandoned by the wester powers. also Poland has been helping them alot

Guess you missed the other times it was posted


The Hypocrisy of your "under the Bridge" life Is fascinating
monday- AMERICAN NEEDS TO BUTT OUT
If the people in those parts want to be Russian is not the USA business

Today -AMERICANS Fault for not butting in
Says the

Says the Shill defending stupidity that led to this. man, I guess Kamala's master moves did not help i guess tweeting Putin did not help. Putin is hours away from the capital as Ukrain say they were abandoned.
.Lol pathetic troll
 
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