Hacking EVO3ds: Possible new flashcart for 3DS games?

[Commoner]

sure, i don't like the way evo has the multirom, pressing UP to change the game..., what happens if the game card icon is not placed at the top left? it would be taking away functionality of using UP to go to the square above... right?
pressing select and having a little selection menu is nicer in a way than having to go through each game one by one

Actually the decision of assigning the Multirom Switch Function to Up on the Directional Pad gives me a strong inclination to believe that the multirom video was faked.

If somebody had actually programmed that in, it would be glaringly obvious on the first debug test that the key assignment would conflict with the basic navigation system in the Home Menu. Add to this the likelihood that attempting to assign a key that is already reserved for other functions on the Home Menu is likely to cause all manner of bugs and headaches, and one is left wondering why it did not occur to the programmer to just use an unassigned key like select for rom swapping.

At the same time it is very easy to imagine a person who is asked to do a bit of video editing to fake multirom support to slip up and forget that the Up button is already assigned to something on the Home Menu Navigation.

This is particularly true if they are not particularly familiar with the 3DS interface and the fact that you can set the Home Menu to display multiple rows instead of just one. After all, if you assumed that the 3DS Home Menu could only display one row of icons, using the Up button might seem like a natural choice for switching between roms.

On the other hand, it would be an Epic Fail for someone who hacks and programs flash carts for the 3DS to be ignorant of the fact that the Home Menu can be set to show multiple rows.

The video is also setup in such a way as to make it easy to overlay whatever you want on to the 3DS screens through basic video editing and masking techniques.

These two things makes the authenticity of the multirom video highly suspect in my opinion.

It is very likely, that the Evo3DS is trying to get people to buy their flash cart by misleading them into believing that all the features they are showcasing will be available on launch when the truth may actually be that these are only planned features for a future update.

As I have said before, there is already precedent for this kind of misleading advertising in the 3DS flash cart scene. A few months ago, MT-Cart released videos which showed features that were actually non-existent on launch. While some of these features were added a couple of months later in the 1.1 Patch, others remain unaddressed to this date.

That is the optimistic scenario. It is also possible that they faked the video so that they can pull off some sort if hoax or scam.

 

[b00100100]

Its here:
http://www.evo-3ds.com/contact.html

• Sales Inquery: [email protected]
• Technical Supports: [email protected]

I didnt realize the website had been updated and with actual pictures of their card... and the card looks clean. I have to say, Im much more impressed than I was yesterday.

 

[fatsquirrel]

You do realise that EVO logo is just copy pasted with photoshop

 

[bostonBC]

Actually the decision of assigning the Multirom Switch Function to Up on the Directional Pad gives me a strong inclination to believe that the multirom video was faked.

If somebody had actually programmed that in, it would be glaringly obvious on the first debug test that the key assignment would conflict with the basic navigation system in the Home Menu. Add to this the likelihood that attempting to assign a key that is already reserved for other functions on the Home Menu is likely to cause all manner of bugs and headaches, and one is left wondering why it did not occur to the programmer to just use an unassigned key like select for rom swapping.

At the same time it is very easy to imagine a person who is asked to do a bit of video editing to fake multirom support to slip up and forget that the Up button is already assigned to something on the Home Menu Navigation.

This is particularly true if they are not particularly familiar with the 3DS interface and the fact you can set the Home Menu to display multiple rows instead of just one. After all, if you assumed that the 3DS Home Menu could only display one row of icons, using the Up button might seem a natural choice for switching between roms.

On the other hand, it would be an Epic Fail for someone who hacks and programs for the 3DS to be ignorant of the fact that the Home Menu can be set to show multiple rows.

This, in addition to the fact that the video is setup in such a way as to make overlaying whatever you want on to the 3DS screens through basic video editing and masking as easy as possible, makes the authenticity of the multirom video highly suspect in my opinion.

It is very likely, in my opinion that the Evo3DS is trying to get people to buy their flsh cart by misleading them into believing that all the features they are showcasing will be available on launch when the truth may actually be that these are only planned features for a future update.

As I have said before, there is already precedent for this kind of misleading advertising in the 3DS flash cart scene. Just a couple of months past, MT-Cart showed several features on video that were actually not available on launch. While some of these features were added a couple of months later in the 1.1 Patch, others remain unaddressed to this date.

What confuses me is why Gateway hasn't gone after them with a vengeance yet.

 

[Hellz92]

What i find to be a big difference between EVO and GW is that there's no Chinese hint at anything of Gateway's website and such. While EVO has had several pointers to being chinese now. Wasn't Gateway french or anything like that?

 

[Technicmaster0]

I think that evo-3ds is a fake site because they havn't updated the price.

 

[gamesquest1]

I think that evo-3ds is a fake site because they havn't updated the price.

wasn't this the proper site
http://www.evo3ds.com/
i thought
http://www.evo-3ds.com/
was some sort of cloney site

ps the price on the original site says $45

 

[Hellz92]

Also it looks pretty clear to me why they stole gateways interface. They don't have the skills to make a nice looking website. Their current website looks like a mess, a background with some text put on it.

 

[Commoner]

What confuses me is why Gateway hasn't gone after them with a vengeance yet.

A lot of developers avoid reading forums and generally what people are saying about them on the internet. Not only can it just cause a lot of undue stress and detrimentally affect you motivation, it can also rapidly devolve into a major time sink if you start feeling the need to defend yourself.

If you are a big company you would hire a public relations officer for this. But a smaller company, particularly a Chinese based one would not see the value in doing this and instead may just take on a policy of radio silence. This is actually very common practice.

From what I can gather, for Gateway, all they really had was someone to read and reply emails. And the word is that they were ill for an extended amount of time.

Now, imagine being this person, who just got back to work and after a stern warning from your doctor that you need to avoid stress during recovery. Then you turn on your workstation to be faced with a sheer wall of hate mail and demands for explanations the moment you open your email while the development team tells you that they don't want to commit to a release date anymore because all it has done so far is bite them in the ass.

Do you think you'd be up for making official statements regarding a new flash cart that nobody even knows exists or not yet?

 

[Warft]

Added the price to the first post

 

[Commoner]

Also it looks pretty clear to me why they stole gateways interface. They don't have the skills to make a nice looking website. Their current website looks like a mess, a background with some text put on it.

I've said this before but if Gateway wanted to hide any relationship with Evo3DS, it would be far easier to make their site and packaging more dissimilar than doing stuff like downgrading the Multirom Switching Menu to a more primitive press Up on Directional Pad to switch to next Rom.

I personally think that Evo3DS is trying to make it seem that they were also behind Gateway through cheap tricks like copying their website and their packaging design. This is most likely because they want consumers to assume that the features they are showcasing in their videos will be available on launch when there is a very good chance that this will not be the case.

Most people would just take it for granted that these features will be usable on launch if Evo3DS was created by the Gateway Team but would probably take such claims from a new unknown clone company with a hefty portion of salt.

 

[josh_axey]

I smell bullshit.


Domain Name EVO-3DS.COM
Registrar TUCOWS DOMAINS INC.
Whois Server whois.tucows.com
Referral URL http://domainhelp.opensrs.net
Name Server NS11.IXWEBHOSTING.COM
NS12.IXWEBHOSTING.COM
Status clientTransferProhibited
clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date 27-mar-2014
Creation Date 27-mar-2014
Expiration Date 27-mar-2015
Last update of whois database Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:35:22 UTC

Hosted out of North America, OH, Columbus.

 

[gamesquest1]

thats probably a scam site designed to try scam resellers, the original site doesn't even have a contact us page yet

 

[b00100100]

^yep. that's pretty fishy. I wouldnt send my money that way...

 

[ndstuff]

thats probably a scam site designed to try scam resellers, the original site doesn't even have a contact us page yet

this^
yep, it's a fairly typical scenario in china. They copy whole factories along with products as well.

 

[josh_axey]

It's probably some troll from here, or a US reseller, scammer, etc.
I don't see a Chinese cart manufacturer (cloner or otherwise) hosting a page via TUCOWS/ecommerce out of Ohio.

 

[xBleedingSoulx]

Reckon it's somebody just trying to make a quick buck out of people's stupidity.

 

[DeadPixelMan]

I personally believe this is a scam. They have a video? Okay- that's nice. I'll believe it when resellers have it in their store and are selling it.

Gateway released only a video at first , most called it fake then it was released. I have high hopes for this being real, i just hope it's a separate group and not the gateway team.

 

[b00100100]

Gateway released only a video at first , most called it fake then it was released. I have high hopes for this being real, i just hope it's a separate group and not the gateway team.

Yeah I am optimistic. I also hope it's a different team from GW

 

[RocketRon]

A lot of developers avoid reading forums and generally what people are saying about them on the internet. Not only can it just cause a lot of undue stress and detrimentally affect you motivation, it can also rapidly devolve into a major time sink if you start feeling the need to defend yourself.

If you are a big company you would hire a public relations officer for this. But a smaller company, particularly a Chinese based one would not see the value in doing this and instead may just take on a policy of radio silence. This is actually very common practice.

From what I can gather, for Gateway, all they really had was someone to read and reply emails. And the word is that they were ill for an extended amount of time.

Now, imagine being this person, who just got back to work and after a stern warning from your doctor that you need to avoid stress during recovery. Then you turn on your workstation to be faced with a sheer wall of hate mail and demands for explanations the moment you open your email while the development team tells you that they don't want to commit to a release date anymore because all it has done so far is bite them in the ass.

Do you think you'd be up for making official statements regarding a new flash cart that nobody even knows exists or not yet?

Yeah..conspiracy. Keep dreaming