G6DS Real in-hand at GBAtemp!

[kknn]

Could you guys please check it out with the "Clean ROM no-patch Tester"(http://nds.truedream.org/ROMTester_1_2.nds) to see if the ROMs can really access the card using their own native access routines ?
So this is really a R4 with builtin memory and supposedly real clean rom support?
Does anyone know how this is possible? I dont see how the encryption was cracked. i think darkfader didnt manage to do it?

 

[jelbo]

Apart from 100% download play compatibility this doesn't look very special to me at this point. Great to see GBAtemp has it in house, can't wait for the review

 

[shaunj66]

Since I pretty much believe the G6 team for their word there's not much I want to know. But I guess the most pressing questions are these:

Does download play work 100%? For instance New Super Mario Brothers
Can you use softreset considering the games won't be patched?
Could you CRC check or something to see if the roms are indeed unpatched? (I think there was a tool for this?)

Thanks for all the great work guys.

NSMB download play works, Yoshi Touch & Go doesn't seem to work though. But I'm still getting used to the OS. I can't find a way to disable cheats.

cant wait for the review...but i think we will be waiting a little while for that. my guess would be till the end of the week at the earliest.

thanks for the heads up

It will be day or two at the least.

QUOTE(-EX- @ Apr 16 2007, 01:38 PM)But what about the build quality? I see it uses a case similar to the one DS-X had. And DS-X' case was of very poor quality, it was very weak, many people had faulty ones. What about this one? As I see the seams are not very good either. How does it feel when you push it hard? Does it feel strong and resistant? R4's build quality is outstanding as everybody already knows, how can you compare G6DS Real's case to R4's then? I don't really trust this type of case, without screws I mean. If only it was hard glued...But then again people want changeable cases.

Build quality seems fine. For some reason though, there is a single screw under the label as well as clips... Yeh weird. It does feel solid though and better quality plastic than the DS-Xtreme. On the back of the G6 where the pins are, there is no plastic separating each golden finger. It's just a clean slate of PCB.

 

[James Kudo]

Awesome, have you tried any GBA games?

 

[shaunj66]

Awesome, have you tried any GBA games?

GBA games are not supported.

 

[-EX-]

Build quality seems fine. For some reason though, there is a single screw under the label as well as clips... Yeh weird. It does feel solid though and better quality plastic than the DS-Xtreme. On the back of the G6 where the pins are, there is no plastic separating each golden finger. It's just a clean slate of PCB.

Interesting, very interesting. Could you please take photos of the back side? Also, could take you the case off and take photos of the PCB itself?

 

[OSW]

Build quality seems fine. For some reason though, there is a single screw under the label as well as clips... Yeh weird. It does feel solid though and better quality plastic than the DS-Xtreme. On the back of the G6 where the pins are, there is no plastic separating each golden finger. It's just a clean slate of PCB.

woah... strange!

 

[Nomearod]

I think that the most important to check is the "100% Download to Play" since this is the great advantage in relation to other flashcards.

Is there any news about the price? If Download to play really works and it isn't very expensive I probably will buy one since I'm still using a Super Card Lite Micro SD.

 

[Killermech]

They really are trying hard to make it appealing by attacking other few products minor flaws

'No need to use the SD card & worry about the ejection problem of SD card'

and the whole simple thing is going out of hand lol.. it started with 'simple' then 'very simple' and now it's 'EXTREME simple to use'

Oh wells, looks like a solid product and G6 was my first DS useable flashcart so.. cheers

 

[Costello]

Wow.

Raw impressions
- excellent build quality
- the usb reader didn't work and almost crashed my PC at first.. then I used a different USB socket and it worked fine

- seems pretty slow to write data (just an impression, havent performed any real test)
- there's a short load time when you start the OS
- when you don't have the system folder installed on the G6 (when the disk is empty) there's a mini-loader, a sort of light version of the OS! very useful if you just formatted your G6 and don't have access to the wwweb

Could you guys please check it out with the "Clean ROM no-patch Tester"(http://nds.truedream.org/ROMTester_1_2.nds) to see if the ROMs can really access the card using their own native access routines ?
So this is really a R4 with builtin memory and supposedly real clean rom support?
Does anyone know how this is possible? I dont see how the encryption was cracked. i think darkfader didnt manage to do it? tongue.gif

I just tried it and it says:

Initial flags: 20486000
Game header is patched!
Header CRC: 912D
ARM9 CRC: 994F
Clean ROM no-patch play: NO
Test data: F1480000 070000C4

but I haven't tweaked any of the options, so maybe there's a real no-patching option that I haven't enabled

 

[Nomearod]

If download to play works, and if it can reseat, then, at least in my opinion, the fact that it is or isn't patched is irrelevant.

 

[stop_loading]

nice, but what does it has that r4 doesn´t?
only the gui I guess..

why ppl assume R4 is perfect? it's a very flawed product, it's the best ds flash cart for now, but that won't last long

 

[SeanoRLY?]

Fucking win.

Can't wait to read the review.

I

 

[thegame07]

So basiclly they where over exagrating about how good it is

thanks guys for answering questions. good luck with the review.

 

[knocturnal]

Does Clubhouse games (or any other game that didn't work) download play work at all.

If it doesn't have 100% working download play I'll stick with my M3 simply

 

[Costello]

The OS is buggy

- touch screen/stylus support isn't good. feels quite random, sometimes doesn't respond when you click somewhere (my screen is in perfect condition)
- I put a homebrew .nds in /NDS/ and it generated a bug in the file listing. No files appear in the directory (my homebrew doesnt show up) and I can't go back to the parent directory...
- since I put my homebrew in /NDS/ it should appear in the NDS games list but it doesn't.
- I'm really annoyed by the little load screen at the beginning. I realize it's raelly nothing to have to wait like 3 or 4 seconds, but compared to the other linkers (the R4's load screen lasts like 0.25s) I find it quite annoying.
I'm going to try some more homebrew but I'm afraid the G6 doesn't like them much. I don't think there's DLDI support yet.
- Oh and also I like the fact that when you remove the G6 from the USB reader, the disk doesn't disappear from the OS (windows doesn't detect it as plugged out)
if you try to read or write from it it'll just freeze the window, but it's handy for homebrew developpers when you don't have to reopen the window each time to drag & drop your build.

- The usb reader is quite wide, it prevents me from using the other USB sockets which are too close. BUT a USB extension cable is supplied so it's not really a problem

- if you plug-in the USB reader without inserting the G6 in it, well the reader is detected as a random hardware. On my PC it was detected as different things, "DVB-T something", "EFA Linker", and more (can't remember) etc...
So what you need to do is unplug it, insert the G6 in the reader and plug the reader back in.

 

[frostfire]

I'm still waiting for the GBAtemper card to be released.. oh well...

Jk. This seems to be a decent flashcard.

 

[Costello]

The speed is pretty good! Copied a 64 mbytes game in 10 seconds.

I was wrong about a few things.
If you remove the G6 from the reader while the reader is plugged in, you can still copy, delete & manage files as if the G6 was actually in the reader!

SO... when you insert the G6 back in the reader and write a file on the drive, it's actually not writing anything to the G6. It's doing nothing!
That's why I was having this problem with my homebrew not being detected.

So basically you have to unplug the reader when you want to use your G6.


Edit: whoops, I'm having a bit of a problem here.
After plugging everything out and in again, any file I send to the G6 doesn't seem to be written to the flash memory. That is, when I turn on my DS with the G6 in it, the OS doesn't list any file and when I plug the reader back in, all the files I saved on the G6 are gone.... did I brick my G6 already? :'(

 

[111111111]

why ppl assume R4 is perfect? it's a very flawed product, it's the best ds flash cart for now, but that won't last long

But this product doesn't have anything over the r4 other than download play (which maybe still broken?).

 

[-EX-]

Haha, that's one bad flashcard there, Costello. If it's really the way you put it though.

I still see no reason why this thing could be better than N-Card. Download play? Who cares for it?