Yet another emulator bites the dust, in the aftermath of the Tropic Haze/Yuzu vs. Nintendo case. Pizza Boy, a $5.49 paid app on the Google Play Store, has been taken down and is no longer available for purchase. Developer Davide made an announcement post explaining that he has permanently removed his app from the Play Store, citing the reasoning as, "I have chosen to prioritize my family over the development of my apps." With the implication that he has not been forced to delist his emulator, but has chosen to do so as a precaution after other emulator developers have been affected. Currently, several other paid GBA/GBC emulators are still available on the Play Store, including John GBA, My Boy!, and Nostalgia.GBA.
no one wants that, but whats the reasoning for that. i mean i see no reason because emulators arent illegal....unless you do illegal stuff with them ang get payed for that.
fear overrides reason and reality in human psychology.
thats exactly what nin10do counts on.
as you (probably) know, yu zu did some shady stuff as i understood myself, so its natural that they retreated. there was no ground for win because they knew they wherent exactly clean from what i read. im interpreting ofc.
i feel the same.
they should be passion projects imo, motivated solely, and driven by passion alone and love for gaming and coding.
i mean....your husband sleeps with you cause he loves you. if he starts paying you and you acept every time you sleep, there is a term for that.
im not saying devs shouldnt make money, far from it, but not from emulators.
again...if a wife wants money, she should get an actual job and not be payed by her husband for giving her pleasure.
i mean...thats just my current view point about that.
i might be wrong but thats how it is.
emulators are awesome but some lines shouldnt be crossed imo. no reason tbh.
plenty of oportunities to proffit off of, just not emulators and other gray zones.
it should be a matter of principles and pure passion imo.
i dont think that purpose for it so its unhackable forever, but to delay pirating till it sells.
i see no reason why people cant do whatever they want after the system expires.
i mean sony even let you download ids firmware officially from a website. its not related but i just wanted to say that.
zelda totk made this whol mess imo or at least was a straw.
but tbh its nintendos fault for having bs security. day one hacked with a paperclip.
wii tweezers....
yeah....
What caused Yuzu to be sued wasn't that they charged for it, it was that they detailed how to extract IP protected data under US law, like firmware and keys and that they added detailed support for leaked titles before they came out, which could be argued to promote piracy.
oh poor things. but they said that they DON'T promote the piracy.
also, no emulator EVER promoted piracy. their intended use was always to be usedcin NASA moon landings, piracy was a side effect.
To download the app again you need open the play store > then click on your profile in the top right > next make sure you are on the account that owns the app > go to "Manage apps & device" at the top of the list > in the top left select installed if you just need to update it, or not installed if it isn't installed at all > finally scroll to the app and tap on it's icon to get it's store page then download/update it as normal.
Alternatively if you have it installed still, you can just hold down on the app icon and click app info on the pop up, then scroll down and click "App details in store" which will take you to the same page the above steps do.
You know, I'm going to show a different opinion than most, but I've thought a lot about the topic in the last few weeks. In the past, emulation was somewhat more complicated to follow. It wasn't very "mainstream" so to speak, that is, it wasn't easy for a common user to download from a play store or similar, or even from a dedicated website (for example the main page of ppsspp, pcsx2 etc). So whoever wanted to play, had to look for the emulator somewhere, download it, configure it and so on. Nowadays things have become trivial. Emulation has become popular (and not niche like it used to be). In my opinion, this was precisely the reason why companies like Nintendo targeted emulators more. (after all, the common user, the one who understands almost nothing about emulation and who would buy a video game just to turn it on and play, can download and run an emulator in 2 or 3 clicks nowadays)
What I see in these cases where the emulator is taken from a store, but continues to be active and distributed by other means, is precisely a return to the old times. So I don't know. Maybe, and just maybe, this is somehow "good", in the sense that an emulator that isn't in a store isn't as targeted. but of course this is my opinion
Factually incorrect, it is in your accounts library so long as you have downloaded the free version or bought the paid version before.
To download the app again you need open the play store > then click on your profile in the top right > next make sure you are on the account that owns the app > go to "Manage apps & device" at the top of the list > in the top left select installed if you just need to update it, or not installed if it isn't installed at all > finally scroll to the app and tap on it's icon to get it's store page then download/update it as normal.
Alternatively if you have it installed still, you can just hold down on the app icon and click app info on the pop up, then scroll down and click "App details in store" which will take you to the same page the above steps do.
Could be fair to say it sucks another option is gone, but honestly, GBA/GBC has so many options for emulation nowadays that unless you're looking for something specific, I can't say I'm too hung up about this. That and mirrors existed for years. It's older emulator so you can at least get a back up from what I've found.
Again, emulators are legal. There's no precedent saying companies are the only ones who are allowed to monetize emulators (especially considering that many of these projects are open source anyways). It's just with Yuzu, some people are getting scared off because they don't want to be the next target. Makes sense that some of these devs would want to avoid that entirely.
Alright, I'm fed up with this, those saying developers are weak for pulling out and what not, screw you and the horse you rode in on. As I have said before, not everyone has a money tree in their backyard to fight legal battles, especially the kind that requires good lawyers and such against a company like Nintendo, and again, some people value their lives more than ones and zeroes. You seem to have some fucked up mental issues if you are this selfish over stupid software. Emulators come and go, you act like another one won't be made in the future. I swear this Yuzu situation is bringing the ugliest crap for people out, and quite frankly you need to go back under the rock you came from and just stay there.
I have no idea why people are becoming more cancerous, but this seriously needs to stop. It's just software for crying out loud, it's not that damn important.
No one cares. This guy knew about Nintendo's dog shit stance on emulation and made the app anyway if you're not gonna stand by your work don't put it out there. These emulators aren't even for the same system and Nintendo has never gone after gba emulators so why would they now? And don't even get me started on how tropical haze didn't even try to dendid themselves. Just layed there and took it
Not saying that the devs of these emulators shouldn't be compensated for their hardwork, but making these things 'paid' products doesn't sit well with me.
You should NEVER pay for piracy.
I know that the YUZU/CITRA situation was slightly different, being as it was patreon donations... I just wonder if the outcome might have been different if the patreon donations were linked to the devs githubs rather than the product page for the emu's.
They made the code for the emulator so they have every right to charge for it plus there was a free version of the app and the paid version only added skins a month other settings. Now if the roms are paywalled then we have a problem
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I just found out that the EU version is better in literally every way, better sound quality, better lighting, and there's even a patch someone made to make the text look nicer
Do I restart now using what i've learned on the EU version since it's a better overall experience? or do I continue with the US version since that is what ive been using, and if someone decides to play my hack, it would most likely be that version?
@TwoSpikedHands, I'll preface this with the fact that I know nothing about the game, but, I think it depends on what your goals are. Are you trying to make a definitive version of the game? You may want to refocus your efforts on the EU version then. Or, are you trying to make a better US version? In which case, the only way to make a better US version is to keep on plugging away at that one
I'm not familiar with the technicalities of the differences between the two versions, but I'm wondering if at least some of those differences are things that you could port over to the US version in your patch without having to include copyrighted assets from the EU version
@Sicklyboy I am wanting to fully change the game and bend it to my will lol. I would like to eventually have the ability to add more characters, enemies, even have a completely different story if i wanted. I already have the ability to change the tilemaps in the US version, so I can basically make my own map and warp to it in game - so I'm pretty far into it!
I really would like to make a hack that I would enjoy playing, and maybe other people would too. swapping to the EU version would also mean my US friends could not legally play it
I am definitely considering porting over some of the EU features without using the actual ROM itself, tbh that would probably be the best way to go about it... but i'm sad that the voice acting is so.... not good on the US version. May not be a way around that though