Question How will gbatemp handle links to shops that sell pirated firmware

[notimp]

So TX' "firmware SKU" is literally pirated Nintendo firmware, modified with its own DRM layer, then sold in stores. Which are linked in here.

Is the "I'm just buying the license for that firmware in those stores" argument enough to freely link to stores selling pirated firmware?

You know - details...

Should we report those links. Should we pretend, they arent what they are?

Should we only ignore those of them that allow paypal?

 

[ehnoah]

I wounder why people ask such stupid stuff. Smells Like a Atmos Fanboy who want forbid TX links x

 

[notimp]

I wounder why people ask such stupid stuff. Smells Like a Atmos Fanboy who want forbid TX links x

Please stay on topic.

Also - yes, I'm actually against a company making their "pirated piece of software" - the main SKU, their lead project - which they plan on selling to folks on gbatemp by the thousands.

But that doesnt deal with the initial question, of how gbatemp plans to handle store links to licenses of pirated software.

I think that its important, that when new schemes to sell people pirated goods come along - we all take a pause, and evaluate what is going on. The idea to sell people DRMed CFW is new. Lets talk about it.

We can also look at this question in a vacuum if we must. Leave all our moral positions out of the picture - just answer this simple question.

Does gbatemp plan on promoting links to shops that sell pirated software (licenses) - on their site?

 

[TheCyberQuake]

Is there proof that it is pirated firmware? Because from what I can tell currently there's no evidence their cfw uses any code from the ofw.

 

[linuxares]

handle store links to licenses of pirated software.

Do you have anything that say that TXs software contain Nintendo code and not just patches on-the-fly?

 

[TheCyberQuake]

Do you have anything that say that TXs software contain Nintendo code and not just patches on-the-fly?

This. Currently there isn't any info about the OS. And I'm assuming they aren't distributing ofw code, but rather are doing what most cfw do and just apply patches over the actual firmware.

 

[darkten]

Please stay on topic.

Are you an actual software engineer, or have any expertise or EVIDENCE *whatsoever* to prove your assertions?

If not, it appears you are on a crusade to create a "protest" to ban the sale of a product you (very likely) feel should be given to you )

-K

 

[notimp]

Is there proof that it is pirated firmware? Because from what I can tell currently there's no evidence their cfw uses any code from the ofw.

I'd say, when they are booting up into the CFW which has a Nintendo boot logo, thats a pretty clear indicator.

Please refer to their "promotional video" at the following timecode:
h**ps://youtu.be/MTIL-1bLGa8?t=28

Where you see the following:

And a second later:

If you want to play games, I'll play along.

 

[linuxares]

Jesus dude, it applys the patches and then boot HorisonOS. The same will happen with Atmosphere.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

Jesus dude, it applys the patches and then boot HorisonOS. The same will happen with Atmosphere.

No, atmosphere will use a custom launch image there, but you are right it doesn't prove that ofw code is being used.

 

[notimp]

Jesus dude, it applys the patches and then boot HorisonOS. The same will happen with Atmosphere.

They sell their product as

• Xecuter SX OS

So they are selling the operating system (OS), not software that applies patches. A loader isn't an OS either. So again, no ambiguity there.

 

[linuxares]

No, atmosphere will use a custom launch image there, but you are right it doesn't prove that ofw code is being used.

Nono, HorisonOS is showing the Nintendo logo. It's not the CFW itself. Sure the Switch Image is iffy, but tons of software uses it.

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They sell their product as

• Xecuter SX OS

So they are selling the operating system, not software that applies patches. A loader isn't an OS.

Yeah, I'm just aborting this thread. It's obvious you don't understand how these software will work. If it was a fully OS it would be like a Linux OS. This is just patches that's get loaded. Same that Luma3DS does on the 3DS.

 

[notimp]

Nono, HorisonOS is showing the Nintendo logo. It's not the CFW itself. Sure the Switch Image is iffy, but tons of software uses it.

What is Horizon OS, and why isn't it mentioned in either the promo video, or those store pages?

Also what qualifies an OS?

An operating system, is the piece of software that allows you to do the main operations on a device, run other software.

They are selling an OS, and the only OS shown in the promo video has a Nintendo boot logo on it - and is modified _by them_ - to work differently from an untouched Nintendo operating system.

Again, no ambiguity there either.

 

[Naked_Snake]

Wtf is going on in this thread besides mis understanding erghhhh

 

[osaka35]

Please understand, you're assuming there is copyrighted code. While you believe you have strong evidence for this, it's still an assumption.

The "OS" sounds like it's...ahh...put together on first run. Meaning it doesn't have everything it needs without having that first run. Which would suggest Executor code does not use copyrighted code, but is homebrew that edits checks/etc of the official firmware and uses emunand. At least, that seems most likely. Just look at the 3ds and how that whole thing works.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

What is Horizon OS, and why isn't it mentioned in either the promo video, or those store pages?

Also what qualifies an OS?

An operating system, is the piece of software that allows you to do the main operations on a device, run other software.

They are selling an OS, and the only OS shown in the promo video has a Nintendo boot logo on it - and is modified _by them_ - to work differently from an untouched Nintendo operating system.

Again, no ambiguity there either.

Or, hear me out, it's poor naming for a cfw for the simple folk that will be buying into this.

 

[dimmidice]

OP at some point you need to realize you don't understand what's going on and stop arguing.

 

[smf]

So TX' "firmware SKU" is literally pirated Nintendo firmware, modified with its own DRM layer, then sold in stores. Which are linked in here.

How do you know that what TX is selling contains nintendo copyright code? They may be selling a patch file.

Every switch owner has a license to use the switch OS anyway.

 

[TheCyberQuake]

What is Horizon OS, and why isn't it mentioned in either the promo video, or those store pages?

Also what qualifies an OS?

An operating system, is the piece of software that allows you to do the main operations on a device, run other software.

They are selling an OS, and the only OS shown in the promo video has a Nintendo boot logo on it - and is modified _by them_ - to work differently from an untouched Nintendo operating system.

Again, no ambiguity there either.

The menu that shows up before cfw is launched is considered a basic OS too, so there's also that.

 

[MHDestination]

They are selling an OS, and the only OS shown in the promo video has a Nintendo boot logo on it - and is modified _by them_ - to work differently from an untouched Nintendo operating system.

They are not actually selling an OS.
It's just an software that patches the stock OS (Named Horizon OS).

Team Xecutor just calls it "SX OS". It just an name. It's marketing!

Even if they call it "Bullshit OS", it would still be a set of patches and won't smell while playing...

 

[Duhasst0]

I don't think it's a misunderstanding at all. I think OP wants to know A if the OS TX is building and selling has ofw code from Nintendo, or is it just patches. And B if so why is this forum supporting TXs decision on releasing questionable fw or OS?

Is this hard to prove right now? Yes cause TX hasn't said one way or another. So anyone who is inside TX CAN YOU ELABORATE?