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Again the point of bringing up unity, ahem which you missed, is that both a homebrew sdk and using unity no difference both violate tos...moving on
the reason I am chiding you for being hung up on law is because the courts side strongly with the corporations. I have even made the point to you if there WERE NO SPECIFIC LAW the courts would still side with them. The system is crooked sadly. I guess you live in some ivory tower. Have you not eyes to see what is around you. Now remember I agree with you. I in my own heart and mind feel you are right. But yes if for some reason the scene got larger and an individual tried to use said sdk to turn a profit he would be made an example of. Keep in mind I am talking something as simple as a patreon or a youtube channel etc.
right now the scene is relatively small. But let's say someone tried to sell a homebrew game they made or a port or the above examples I gave. If the scene was in the hundreds of thousands to millions (like the switch scene) sure I can see that individual or group being attacked legally. You bet ya. Companies protect revenue. Now to me I draw a line when someone thinks they are doing things legally when I know they are illegal. It isn't to be like you are wrong and I am right blah blah.
I have been locked up for things I didn't do. It is not fun...In my case it was brief. I uh "fit the description" really sucked...
It is to WARN A BROTHER...not to rub it in his face that they are wrong and I am right. Maybe they honestly don't realize the state of affairs. The nintendo cases were cited to show you recent cases where a company is being aggressive legally. Several sites have been lost to this in the past 2 years. Have you not eyes?
In my world signing physically would matter. I am with you. But the world has changed. When you take your ps4 and agree to tos electronically I am afraid that they have you. If you notice the big difference between all the consoles is the xbox one is very insistent you use their online service to setup. That was not a mistake. Even offline your ps4 still gives you an agreement upon user creation. I am afraid in their eyes you have signed. You may argue this. I would suggest you discuss it in a level headed manner. But to me there is nothing to debate there. It is done. What is possible is if attacked legally and if they make a good argument perhaps the "little guy" could win. Yes. nothing is impossible. But as we spoke of precedent's earlier let me cite one for you. I introduce you to the sad tale of my friend Graf_Chokolo....
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/28/jailbreaker_defies_sony/
the reason I am chiding you for being hung up on law is because the courts side strongly with the corporations. I have even made the point to you if there WERE NO SPECIFIC LAW the courts would still side with them. The system is crooked sadly. I guess you live in some ivory tower. Have you not eyes to see what is around you. Now remember I agree with you. I in my own heart and mind feel you are right. But yes if for some reason the scene got larger and an individual tried to use said sdk to turn a profit he would be made an example of. Keep in mind I am talking something as simple as a patreon or a youtube channel etc.
right now the scene is relatively small. But let's say someone tried to sell a homebrew game they made or a port or the above examples I gave. If the scene was in the hundreds of thousands to millions (like the switch scene) sure I can see that individual or group being attacked legally. You bet ya. Companies protect revenue. Now to me I draw a line when someone thinks they are doing things legally when I know they are illegal. It isn't to be like you are wrong and I am right blah blah.
I have been locked up for things I didn't do. It is not fun...In my case it was brief. I uh "fit the description" really sucked...
It is to WARN A BROTHER...not to rub it in his face that they are wrong and I am right. Maybe they honestly don't realize the state of affairs. The nintendo cases were cited to show you recent cases where a company is being aggressive legally. Several sites have been lost to this in the past 2 years. Have you not eyes?
In my world signing physically would matter. I am with you. But the world has changed. When you take your ps4 and agree to tos electronically I am afraid that they have you. If you notice the big difference between all the consoles is the xbox one is very insistent you use their online service to setup. That was not a mistake. Even offline your ps4 still gives you an agreement upon user creation. I am afraid in their eyes you have signed. You may argue this. I would suggest you discuss it in a level headed manner. But to me there is nothing to debate there. It is done. What is possible is if attacked legally and if they make a good argument perhaps the "little guy" could win. Yes. nothing is impossible. But as we spoke of precedent's earlier let me cite one for you. I introduce you to the sad tale of my friend Graf_Chokolo....
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02/28/jailbreaker_defies_sony/
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