New ROM Anti-Piracy Software

[zeromac]

well this is gonna be interesting, sucks for me :/

 

[War]

I'm positive there will be some work-around to this. Do not underestimate the pirating community. Sure, it may not be immediate, but eventually a fix will come out.

 

[Another World]

one thing that people seem to not understand is that this anti-piracy measure is designed to be injected. this means it can be added to the precompiled code before it's transferred over to the retail cart. a simple bach application that alters the code ever-so-slightly means a new patch and a new method to hack per-rom. in theory this could mean that a run of 5,000 retail carts each as 1 of 5,000 different anti-piracy fixes which detect flash linker pre-patching. while linkers advertise "clean roms" this means roms do not need to be pre-patched, the firmware does it for you. all current slot1 linkers (to my knowledge) do some type of patching before the game loads.

but until this code makes its debut everything remains speculation as the company is not releasing any details.

@ducktails: thats a great game! =P

-another world

 

[stanleyopar2000]

they will do this to LUCRATIVE games

like Kingdom Hearts DS you bet ur ass....

( no wonder it got delayed......)

 

[War]

@Another World: So basically what you're saying is that each cart will have it's own security code that needs to be bypassed? Couldn't this be easily mended by just having everyone use the one version of the ROM that was uploaded to the net?

 

[stanleyopar2000]

one thing that people seem to not understand is that this anti-piracy measure is designed to be injected. this means it can be added to the precompiled code before it's transferred over to the retail cart. a simple bach application that alters the code ever-so-slightly means a new patch and a new method to hack per-rom. in theory this could mean that a run of 5,000 retail carts each as 1 of 5,000 different anti-piracy fixes which detect flash linker pre-patching. while linkers advertise "clean roms" this means roms do not need to be pre-patched, the firmware does it for you. all current slot1 linkers (to my knowledge) do some type of patching before the game loads.

but until this code makes its debut everything remains speculation as the company is not releasing any details.

@ducktails: thats a great game! =P

-another world

wanna tell nintendo how many time you shit each time a day too???

DONT TELL THEM OUR PLANS.

THEY ARE LOOKING AT OUR RESPONSE TO THIS ATTACK IM SHURE.

btw - I have Ducktales!...love it

 

[anaxs]

does this meen that no more roms after december this year...?

 

[stanleyopar2000]

I fucking Hope not.

 

[Tozarian]

I was almost happy when I read this article! That's right Nintendo! Focus on R4 users! M3 REAL + CYCLO + Acekard FTW!

 

[Raven Darkheart]

the paranoia here is quite hilarious, if that was the case then why can we stiill pirate damn near everything? this is a minor glitch at best

if it comes down to it i would rather have intros and precracked roms uploaded to the net like the old days

 

[Another World]

@PharaohsVizier: i recall that application as well but i can't remember the name. the homebrew devs i know have told me, on different occasions, that all flash linkers which run from the msd do some form of patching. although team cyclo swears up and down that their kit doesn't.

-another world

 

[stanleyopar2000]

erm...THATS....NOT GOOD.......

 

[sprogurt]

I laughed so hard when i heard this! then went to failblog (i wish it wasn't a coincidence XD)
seriously, there's hardly any good games on ds looking forward to, kindom hearts and zelda being exceptions and tbh BUY THE FRIGGIN GAME! yes we all like things for free but at some point we'll all buy a game. Also it looks like the ds doesn't have long left (in my view). Sure the dsi has just came out but with all these crappy 3rd party games that only toddlers would buy it will die sooner rather than later. The only thing i can see that will keep it afloat is dsi ware and dsi games.

 

[knuj_on]

Sounds like history is repeating itself when they thought they had an unbeatable system on the Atari ST(e). The ROMs themselves can not change contents thus code must copy itself to ram before it can modify itself. This gives 2 options for a “one size fits all” solution (but it is the same process). If the emulators are good enough, let the code execute until it starts updating the screen and snapshot the memory. If the emulators are not good enough custom firmware for the Phat in the Flashme style to achieve the same thing. The first ST(e) attempt unscrambled the entire program before executing it. Subsequent attempts unscrambled it in sections just prior to execution. However the unscrambled stuff is present in memory and can be snapshoted. An emulator would be best at recording the memory contents as it is executed or read for the first time. Once this image is constructed, it must be what the program was like prior to encryption. Re-pack as if it was homebrew, Job Done.

 

[B-Blue]

just arm7 patch the rom and you're good to go.

Spoiler

:3

 

[whatup777]

This may be a plot after all they announced it and unles they are majorly retarded they may inject the games earlier. I hear remakes of Gold/Silver is being made and the first DSi only game comes in June. A plot mabye.

Edit: if you buy the game mabye it will inject your DSi to block things. Oh Well this tells us Nintendo can't block flashcarts for there life

 

[Hop2089]

Sure the dsi has just came out but with all these crappy 3rd party games that only toddlers would buy it will die sooner rather than later. The only thing i can see that will keep it afloat is dsi ware and dsi games.

If that's true then American DSi gamers are screwed as most of the quality DSiware and DSi games will be Japan only unless you own a Japanese DSi.

 

[stanleyopar2000]

unless we can regionfrii them when the DSiWare is Decrypted???

LOL?

 

[wchill]

Maybe we could just simply remove this security scheme from the ROM? As in, assuming that they aren't making drastic changes between one ROM to the next, just search for a certain section of code that's part of the security. Since you then know the location of this code, go back a bit further and find the start of it, then wipe everything from there to the start of the game code.

 

[sadak5]

I laughed so hard when i heard this! then went to failblog (i wish it wasn't a coincidence XD)
seriously, there's hardly any good games on ds looking forward to, kindom hearts and zelda being exceptions and tbh BUY THE FRIGGIN GAME! yes we all like things for free but at some point we'll all buy a game. Also it looks like the ds doesn't have long left (in my view). Sure the dsi has just came out but with all these crappy 3rd party games that only toddlers would buy it will die sooner rather than later. The only thing i can see that will keep it afloat is dsi ware and dsi games.

I was thinking the same. If the anti piracy code will be on really good games, then you will must buy only the anti piracy injected