New ROM Anti-Piracy Software

[anaxs]

i just hope this isnt the end of roms......i love roms...
i hope flash cart teams can get sround this wall if its true

 

[ozzyzak]

I wonder how many hours this will last.

p.s Nintendo concentrate on making better games in stead of wasting time with this shit.

Yeah, because then you'd all go out and buy shit right? Right?

ffs...

 

[Tac 21]

I always laugh when i see these 'lets hate R4 together' kind of news posts. They must really be ignorant not to look at other brands, because im pretty sure R4 isn't a hell of a lot popular than other brands.

Assuming this also deals with M3

I totally agree- this is nothing but comedy to me. I think these guys a blowing off stream; BECAUSE this generation was so easy to access and so easy to hack, I don't think the "barriers" will pose an actual Challenge. Maybe for online stuff, but, its too late man.

I somewhat agree with others though after reading- I am appalled but how many idiots have tools like this and don't even use their brains to work them out (so easy) the GBA days, as furstering as they were, were a lot better.

In any case, there is a reason why it (flash carts) has become so big, and that is due to all of the changes that are happening with commerice and systems as a whole- Nintendo can do what the like, they can't stop a spiritual revolution (thats pretty much what its amounting to) when it already has started. What surpises me is even some of us, the "prates," are complaining about how flashcarts going somewhat mainstream their are as well.

but really, I think that they are just blowing serious smoke. It'll be like that "R4 new firmwire out by SEPT to counter shitty R4 CLONES" crap- nothing noticeable actually happens. I mean, like, SHIT, why are people so sacred!? Media does this ALL THE TIME. like fuck,

take a fuckin look at the artcles for when the DSi came out- now granted, R4 and older carts will not work on them anymore, but I will bet your life that if its something like Gold/Silver/KH/Zelda that gets this treatment, it'll be CRACKED and available within seconds for almost ALL flash cards- as another poster had said, their is likely a weakness, that is probably real easy to exploit.

 

[anaxs]

hopefully this protest wont effect other flash carts rather than r4

 

[DxEggman]

If Nintendo stopped putting so much emphasis on shit games, I'd legit buy more of their products.

 

[Hakoda]

hopefully this protest wont effect other flash carts rather than r4

I think it will effect all flashcards but we're going to have to wait and see. It affects all flashcards because, like said by many tempers, your flashcard will patch the ROM before launching no matter what kind options you have set. Because of this patch, an added code to the game will cause it to "self-destruct" and the security will be activated. The game will be killed and no longer playable. Bottom line, if a patch is applied to the game and outcome key for new code is different than it is if it were launched by a retail cart + DS operation, the security system will be activated and the game will no longer be playable. This got me thinking, "Does this affect AR users?" By AR users I mean, people that use retail carts and and original AR. The AR must patch it it somehow and if the security system mistakes it for a flashcard patch the game will destroyed all because you wanted some rare candies in your new SoulSilver game.

But most likely, the patch is different than retail AR units than it is to flashcards. So hopefully, Nintendo won't make that mistake.

~ Jon

 

[anaxs]

so..if we pack our flash carts with as many roms as it could hold b4 this thing happens then nothing could happen to thoes roms...right or wrong

 

[TheRealDude]

In all honesty, I doubt that their "Anti-Piracy" code will work.

If they "inject" the code into each and every game, all it requires is for someone to flash a copy of the game, figure out what the code is and remove it all together. If they try to incorporate a sister code into the DSi to check for the key, it'll take an eternity for the console to identify a genuine key since each cartridge will essentially have a different one.

Can someone say "talking out of the ass"?

 

[BoxShot]

Doesn't this only effect newer games? So I'm guessing no more translations if this goes well. >.> (Does this count as a form of patching?)

 

[anaxs]

i agree with" the real dude"
i just hope hes right tho

 

[Raven Darkheart]

its just the mass paranoia, just relax a bit kids, the hackers havent been really tested in a long time so i actually wanna see this play out

 

[anaxs]

yeh...this is actually really exiting..lets see what hese hackers are capable of..were just wastin our energy worryin bout this "problem"

 

[BASS ULTRA]

Okay...? I don't get how this new protection thing works.

Is it like the new games get a code. We rip the game from the catridge, then we play it on our R4's, and then the code has an atomic explosion and makes the game unplayable?

 

[Deleted User]

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This got me thinking, "Does this affect AR users?" By AR users I mean, people that use retail carts and and original AR. The AR must patch it it somehow and if the security system mistakes it for a flashcard patch the game will destroyed all because you wanted some rare candies in your new SoulSilver game.

But most likely, the patch is different than retail AR units than it is to flashcards. So hopefully, Nintendo won't make that mistake.

~ Jon

That's absurd, a retail card can't be "destroyed" because of this as those aren't writable.

 

[omatic]

I was wondering when they'd use this method, and I'd assumed they didn't really care about piracy since they weren't.

This'll mean that people will have to wait a few weeks after a dump for it to be playable. If they're doing this the way I think they are, then there will be a relatively simple way to find the security for each individual game after the first few "secured" games, unless they have completely unique methods for each game.

I predict this'll eventually boil down to something as simple as an AR code. Fortunately, I have a life to live in the mean time while I'm not playing whatever game can't be played temporarily.

 

[BoxShot]

Okay...? I don't get how this new protection thing works.

Is it like the new games get a code. We rip the game from the catridge, then we play it on our R4's, and then the code has an atomic explosion and makes the game unplayable?

Flashcards patch their games that you run someway I don't really know. This code basically finds if you patched it, and if you did it will stop working. (IDK if patching would also mean translation patches and such)

 

[triassic911]

Pokemon Gold & Silver better not have this.

 

[TheDarkSeed]

well if this is war then can sum1 send me like tutorial link on how 2 code and hack into this kinda shit? (btw never dun this b4! excitin g stuff!)

me too.

 

[mrfatso]

@ A-Z and TheDarkSeed: first, do a search on ar code tutorial and if u still can't find it, i suggest giving up and just wait for ur codes

 

[Smartpal]

I hope it's only limited to R4 cards *fingers crossed*. Otherwise this is a bummer.